All-Dread: 2018

Friday, December 21, 2018

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Saturday, December 1, 2018

Joshua and Jesus amazing matches

This post lists some amazing parallels bewteen Jesus and Joshua.

Joshua: name Joshua (Jehoshua).
Jesus: name Jesus (Jehoshua).

Joshua: son of Nun "fish". (Nu/Nun/Num was also a Egyptian creator god of celestial waters similar to biblical El/Yhwh. He was also a potter.)
Jesus: son of God. ("son of none") Was a "carpenter"/builder/architect/mason. Identified with the Lord/God who formed Adam from clay. Symbolised by fish. Sign of Jonah.

Joshua: of tribe of Ephraim/Joseph.
Jesus: of Bethlehem-Ephrathah. Messiah ben Joseph.

Joshua: came out of Egypt when young.
Jesus: was in Egypt for a little while when a young child; "out of Egypt i have called my son".

Joshua: the Jordan waters stopped-up at Zarethan
Jesus: from Nazareth.
(Zarephath?)

Joshua & Eleazar "God help" son of Aaron.
Jesus & John (of tribe of Levi)? Jesus & holy spirit?

Joshua: comes next after Moses/Torah.
Jesus: Jesus/NT comes after Moses/Mosaic Law/OT; Jesus came after John the Baptist. "the Law and Prophets were until John.

Joshua: passed through Red sea. crossed through Jordan.
Jesus: baptised in Jordan.

Joshua: 40 yrs in wilderness (between Red sea passage and Jordan crossing).
Jesus: 40 days in wilderness. May have died about 40 yrs old ("his generation")?

Joshua: "kept giving as his warrant of faith the fact that the lord had spoken".
Jesus: "it is written". "The Word" (Logos).

Joshua: "Joshua accepted Moses' place of leadership without misgivings. God's will for him was his will, and he did not hesitate. To go all out for God was already habitual with him...."
Jesus: did not his will but his father's will.

Joshua: I (God) will be/are with you as i was with Moses.
Jesus: "God will raise you up a prophet like me (Moses)"

Joshua: passed through Bashan (Transjordan). At Gilgal "a circle, roll(ing) (away)". Conquered Jericho, Ai near Bethel, Jerusalem. Southern campaign & northern one. Sea of Chinneroth.
Jesus: ministry in Judea in south, Galilee (of the gentiles) "circle of gentiles" in north, Perea (Transjordan). stone "rolled away" from tomb.
Jesus passed through Jericho.

Joshua: Shiloh
Jesus: until Shiloh comes

Joshua: scourge in side, thorn in eyes (Josh 23:13)
Jesus/Paul: speck/beam in eye, thorn in flesh?

Joshua: 7 days around Jericho, 7 shofar-trumpet blowings.
Jesus: .... (7 Churches?)

Joshua: sin of Achan/Achar/Achor "he troubled, trouble, troubler" (of tribe of Judah, accursed loot from Jericho, stoned, valley of Achor).
Jesus: betrail of thief Judas for pieces of silver. (Buried Adam's sin?)
(Satan the devil/adversary/accuser/tempter. Azazel of Leviticus 16:7-10?)
Ananias & Saphira in Acts?
The Lord turned away anger from Israelites after the stoning of Achor might be similar to 1/3rd Jews saved through great tribulation "time of Jacob's trouble"?

Joshua: Joshua crossed through Jordan. Ark passed through Jordan first before the others.
Jesus: Ark is symbol of Jesus. Jesus death and burial and resurrection are symbolised by baptism (and the Flood/Ark of Noah).

Joshua: reenacts circumcision. kept the passover (Josh 5:10).
Jesus: (He was circumcised on 8th day.) His death on cross is symbolised by circumcision and baptism. Circumcises hearts.

Joshua: crossing Jordan 40 yrs after Red Sea crossing.
Jesus: ....

Joshua: red cord/scarf of Rahab hung out window of Jericho.
Jesus: we hang-out/hold-on-to Jesus blood as our salvation/forgiveness hope.

Joshua: hung king of Ai on a tree until sunset, & peace offerings..
Jesus: hung sin on tree (like Nehushtan serpent on cross). (Judas hanged (or impalled) self.)

Joshua: no day like it before or since when the Lord heeded the voice of a man (Joshua halting sun & moon).
Jesus: eclipse/darkness at crucifiction? ....

Joshua: "Joshua's last words"
Jesus: 7 last words on cross?

Joshua: Gilgal "roll away"
Jesus: Golgotha/Calvary.

Joshua: graves of Joshua, Joseph, and Eleazar.
Jesus: empty grave/tomb of Jesus (of Joseph of Arimathea); step father Joseph apparently died before Jesus' adulthood. Raised Lazarus from death/tomb. Son of triune God died on Cross. (3 crosses. 3 nails. 3 days.)
(Eleazar in story of Abraham is type of the holy spirit.)

Joshua: Joshua went that night into midst of the ravine (Josh 8:13).
Jesus: descended to sheol.

Joshua: Jordan waters cut-off all the way back up at city Adam & Zaretan/Zarethan/Zarthan/Zartanah "cooling" (or possibly "gold" or "beauty/splendor" or "bright" or "dawn, east, sunrise, risen"?)
Jesus: (Judas died at Acel-dama "field of blood".) Sin paid for by Jesus all the way back to Adam on down to us. Jesus is the "last/second Adam".
(Adam was at the garden of Eden/paradise, and in the cool of the day. Eretz/Earth?)

Joshua: "rose early at day-break" (Josh 6:15).
Jesus: rose early on sunday morning before sunrise.

Joshua: name means "Jhvh + salvation/saves"
Jesus: "he shall save the people from their sins". "The Saviour".

Joshua: reminds them of God's mercies.
("... the execution of the sentence of retributive justice... had ... as great mercy to the innocent as justice to the guilty.")
Jesus: grace vs law. "I require mercy not sacrifice".

Joshua: Israel saved from bondage/slavery in Egypt.
Jesus: he who sins is a slave of sin, saved people from sin(s).

(Joshua: People passed through Jordan with "haste".
Jesus: we accept his salvation with haste.)

Joshua: occupied promised land.
Jesus: fulfilment of the promise.

Joshua: name contains Jhvh.
Jesus: son of Jhvh/El

Joshua: renews covenant. Covenant at Mt Ebal.
Joshua: covenant (Josh 24:25)
Jesus: fulfilled law (OT). New testament/covenant made at Mt Golgotha/Calvary.

Joshua: spies 3 days in mountain(s). "After 3 days the officers went through the camp" (Josh 3:2).
Jesus: 3 yrs ministry? 3 days in tomb.

Joshua: memorial forever (Josh 4:7).
Jesus: what he did lasts forever.

Joshua: "wrote on stones a copy of the law (Josh 8:32)
Joshua wrote in book (Josh 24:26)
Jesus: writes law on/in our hearts. Book of Life.

Joshua: you shall know that the living god is among you" (Josh 3:10). (Ark symbol of presence of God.)
Jesus: God in saved peoples hearts.

Joshua: "I will work wonders among you" (Josh 3:5). Lord magnified Joshua in sight of all the people.
Jesus: miracles. Crucifiction & resurrection a greatest wonder.

Joshua: read all the words of the law, not a word that Joshua did not read (Josh 8:34-5).
Jesus: every jot & tiddle fulfilled. The Word (Logos). "it is written".
Jesus opened the scriptures to them showing what written of him.

Joshua: conquered 31 + 2 kings.
Jesus: 30 + 1-3 years? 70/72 disciples which symbolise 70/72 nations of world of Genesis 10?
(Captives lead in his triumphal procession.)

Joshua: no wife mentioned. Not succeeded by son. No mother mentioned.
Jesus: no wife. No son. Addressed Mary as "woman".

Joshua: people followed the Ark, "because the way is new/unknown to you". "The sight of the [ark] standing in the dry bed of the Jordan as the people passed over was the sign" (Amplified Bible footnote).
Jesus: Ark is symbol of Jesus. Christians all follow Jesus the "first of the resurrection" who showed/made the way. "The Way" name of Jesus and christianity (in Acts).

Joshua: God told Joshua to select 12 men from each tribe. Sets up 12 stones in Jordan.
Jesus: selects 12 disciples/apostles.

Joshua: Conquers 7 nations of Canaan (Josh 3:10).
Alotment of Judah & Ephraim & half tribe of Manasseh, and alotment of 7 other tribes including Benjamin, Simeon and Naphtali.
Jesus: In land of Zebulun & Naphtali. for Jews/Israel & for church/christians (7 churches). Succeeded by Simon Peter, and Paul (Benjamite).

Joshua: "most of the individual stories told in Joshua relate to events in a single region, that of the tribe of Benjamin and the area near Gilgal, an old sanctuary.
Jesus: most of the events are in Temple/Jerusalem/Judah/Benjamin and Galilee/Capernaum/synagogue.

Joshua: alotments of cities of refuge.
Jesus: Is our city of refuge. (New Jerusalem.)

Joshua: Joshua & Caleb/Chelubai "(a) dog, boldness, bold (one), capable, whole-hearted" (Judahite) (Numbers, Joshua & Judges). Calebites.
Jesus: Galileans? Zealots? Peter & disciples/apostles? Jews?
Jesus & Paul (who was of tribe Benjamin whose symbol was a wolf)?

Joshua: was held in awe all his days.
Jesus: was and is held in awe by disciples/apostles and all messianic Jews and christians.

Joshua: "as the Lord commanded.... See, I have commanded you" (Josh 8:8).
Jesus: "if you love me you will keep my commandments". "A new commandment i give you...."

Joshua: love (& law/commanments) (Josh 22:5 and 23:11)
Jesus: love (& commandments) (& one) in John.

Joshua: Mt Gerizim & Mt Ebal (blessings & cursings).
Jesus/Paul: Sinai/Horeb/Hagar & Calvary? Sermon on the mount.

Joshua: Not one thing has failed of all the good things the lord has promised (Josh 23:14)
Jesus: every jot and tiddle....

Joshua: and foreigners (Josh 8:35). Japhletites?
Jesus: other sheep, gentile christians.

Joshua: priests/Levites (Joshua 8)
Jesus: kings and priests.

Joshua: Yhwh designated Joshua as Moses successor.
Jesus: Jhvh set Jesus as the saviour and king.

Joshua: "ark of lord of whole earth".
Jesus: appointed to be lord of whole earth.

Joshua: "whoever rebels against you shall be put to death" (Josh 1:18).
Jesus: all those who do not believe in Jesus will not be saved.

Joshua set up a great stone (under an oak) as a witness (Josh24:26-7)
Jesus is the corner stone.... Golgotha "skull hill".

Joshua: Rahab.
Jesus: Rahab is in list of ancestors of Jesus. Mary Magdalene.

Joshua: "executing that sentence to the letter." (Amplified bible footnote in Joshua 5).
Jesus: every jot and tiddle fulfilled. (Spirit of law not letter of law.)

Joshua: dux belli "leader of battles", warrior. Prince of Lord's Host (worshipped) (Josh 5:14). "Holy war".
Jesus: war leader in Revelation/Apocalypse.

Joshua: recounts Abraham to Moses (Josh 24)
Jesus: Stephen & Paul recount from Abraham to Moses in Acts.

Joshua: mantle from Shinar / Babylonish garment.
NT: Babylon?
(Compare garments of Adam and Eve?)

Joshua: cursed who rebuilds city Jericho ("fragrance" or "moon (city)" or Enoch/Erech). City Ai/Bethaven/Bethel "heap of ruins"/"house of god".
NT: city Babylon? Atlantis Rising the sea beast in Revelation (matches the great city of Asshur in Genesis 10)?

Joshua: Hivite "villagers" Gibeonites from Gibeon "(lofty) hill, high, height" deceive Israelites with cunning/craft, and they become cursed and slave hewers of wood and drawers of water for the assembly/congregation and for the altar/house of Lord/God. (Gibeon one of the only cities called "great" in whole bible.)
Jesus: Romans sheep in wolf's clothing. (Rome called Babylon the great.)
(Christians priests.)

Joshua: 7 tribes
Jesus: 7 churches

(Joshua: Makkedah (Josh 10). Madon. Megiddo.
Jesus: Mecca/Makkah? [Macedonian?] Ar-mageddon?)

Joshua: Hamor inheritance of Josephites.
Christianity: American Mormons or "Manasseh"?

Joshua: lived to a 110 yrs old.
Jesus: millenial reign?

Wednesday, November 28, 2018

Jews & gentiles

This table shows possible biblical prophetic & historical types of Messianic Jews/Israel & gentile Christians/Church:

Shem/Yhwh & Japheth/Elohim (Gen 9:26-27)
Ephraim & Manasseh (Gen 48)?
Zerubbabel & Jeshua (Haggai 1:14; Zech 6:11)?
Moses & Elijah (as possibly the 2 Witnesses of Revelation)?
Michael & Gabriel?
James & John?
fig tree & vine? (also/alternatively a type of male & female marriage)
Peter & John (John 20:3-8)?
Thomas (minus Judas) & 10 disciples (John 20:19-29)?
Peter & Paul (Acts)?
Matthew/Levi / Mark/Peter & Luke/Paul / John (NT Gospels)?
James/Jacob & Paul (NT Epistles)?
those who keep the commandments & the faith of Jesus (Rev 14:12)?

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Not sure if these might also match?

Matt Mark Luke John
James Pete John Jude?
Psalms Proverbs Ecclesiastes Song-of-Sol?
Isaiash Jeremiah Ezekiel Daniel?
Pharisees Sadducees Essenes Zealotes?

Also see:
https://senatorspark.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/3-types-3.jpg
https://seventynations.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/3-types-3.gif

Sunday, November 18, 2018

Joseph & Moses in Egypt

See our posts of Joseph and Moses in Egyptian history in our forum topic on Bible and Egypt history here: http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37787

(They are too long to post in our blog unless we break them up into multiple posts/pages. But if there are problems with viewing them there then we may post them here too/instead.)

Wednesday, November 7, 2018

Seven Thunders

I call these "7 thunders" like in Revelation chapter 10, though i am not sure that these are really thunders or that they number seven (there are also a few more that maybe also could be added). Most all of these things were seemingly given/revealed to me at various times over the last number of years, some were somewhat connected with things friends like Ian and Matthew shared. Maybe some people might find them good like i have, and maybe someone can share somethings that might help me in the awful troubles i have been having. The times are getting closer to the last days and the world is getting pretty bad for some of us, and we need as much of Jesus in ourselves and each other, and to all love one another.

Only throwing Jonah overboard worked, not the sailors throwing cargo over or working hard to survive the storm.

We are saved by asking/accepting/believing in Jesus, and identifying with (or being One with) him and his dying and raising, like Abel's sacrifice, and the cupbearer in story of Joseph, and looking at the serpent on the cross.
We can not make ourselves like the bible, or pretend/copy/imitate, but we are made like the bible through (being one with) him ("the word became flesh"). He writes the law in our hearts (compare commandments are inside the ark). This is what was prophesied in the prophets that he dwell with/in us, and "no longer will you call me Baali "master" but you will call me Ishi "husband"".
(Compare "walk in the light".)

If/when we are One with Jesus/God then we see everyone as they really are through his eyes (people unsaved, suffering, alone), and we intimately know/see/have his love for everyone, and when we are One with Jesus/God then we are then also One with each other through him. (See http://iwillnotbeassimilated.blogspot.com/2017/09/being-one-loving-each-other.html . This is a real experience, it is like touching a live current, (we touch his garment?) Though we are really One with/in him and with each other by all sharing same experience that the disciples/apostles did; and we know his love & freedom by same experience, as can be seen by the change after the resurrection.)
Ahaba "love/agape" value 13 = Ehad "one/unity/first" value 13 = the First Love. (13 = 3 in 1.)

Jesus' name means "Jhvh/Yhwh saves/salvation"

All our motives and efforts are nothing compared to Jesus love in dying for us.

Jesus is the most precious corner stone, (compare a friend said about God blowing away the sand.)
The Ark (in temple) is symbol of Jesus (in heart) (see http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=23942&PID=723110#723110 ).

Even if no one else is praying for us Jesus is praying for us.
(Sometimes it has seemed like the rain was God crying, and thunder God angry, and storm a battle.)

Storm not so bad if Jesus in our boat and/or we in his boat/ark.

Table:

old/6                                        - new/8
baker                                        - cupbearer
Cain                                         - Abel
works/effort/merit/earn              - faith
law                                          - grace
sacrifice                                   - mercy/lovingkindness
hard/heavy/burden/strict           - easy/light/rest
external law                              - law written in heart
commandments/law                  - love/"Me"
shallow                                    - deep
flesh                                        - spirit
letter of law                             - spirit of law
human laws/traditions              - God's law
slave/force/straightjacket/ocd   - free
physical circumcision              - spiritual circumcision
ongoing animal sacrifices        - One sacrifice of Jesus
fig leaves                                - skins
fear                                        - love
copy/imitate/pretend/fake        - born/created/gift/One/real
all our motives/efforts             - jesus love
pharisee                                 - tax-collector
thief left side of cross             - thief right side of cross
cargo overboard                     - Jonah overboard
baali "master/lord"                  - ishi "husband"
works                                    - first love
force/laws/philosophy            - rebirth/genetics/wayoflife
dont look at serpent on cross - do look at serpent on cross
knowledge puffs up                - love edifies.

Tuesday, November 6, 2018

Apostles (and Saints and Bishops)

Following on from the recent post with the list of the Israelite tribes and the persons and places associated with them, we now post a similar list of the apostles and the places they are associated with in bible and traditions etc. We also extended it to further include some saints and bishops. One reason for this list is because there might be a possibility that the 12 battles of Arthur have a correspondence with a list of apostles and the places they were supposed to represent, but there are also other biblical/religious and historical etc uses/reasons for this list.
(Note that the few in brackets are only my own possible connections, while all the ones not in brackets are from historical sources.)

Trinity
- Trinidad;

Satan/Devil/Lucifer/Nahash/Mastema/Melkiresha/Belial/Beelzebul / Asmodeus? / Dragon / father / liar "Old Nick" "roaring lion" :
Heaven; air; Smyrna; Pergamum; Thyatira; Philadelphia; bottomless pit; roaming to and fro; high mountian; pinnacle of temple; mount of congregation; sides of the north; (Draco;) lake of fire; Devil's Triangle/Sea; Devil's Dyke; (Davy Jones Locker?) Israel; stars; Eden; (pointed stones?) wilderness; under feet; synagogue; Gog; Magog; rocky ground; bad Jews/Pharisees/Scribes; upper room; heart; prison; dust; earth & sea;

Michael
- Israel/Hebrews/Jews; Germany; St Michael's Mt in Cornwall; Mont St Michel in France;

Anne
- Canada

"Our Lady" "Blessed Virgin Mary" "Mother of God"
- Badon; Guinnion; South Africa; Santa Maria de Bretona; Vatican; Australia; France; Poland; NZ; India; Hungary; Merry Men; sea; star; Virgo; Nazareth; Bethlehem; Egypt; Calvary; Stow/Wedale;

St Joseph
- Belgium; Canada; Upper Hutt; nearby Dashur in Egypt; Costa Rica;

Zechariah/John the Baptist
- Jordan; wilderness of Judea; Freemasons / Templars; Mandeans;

"Our Lord" Jesus/Isa Christ/Messiah of Nazareth Great high priest of order of Melchizedek, Lion of Judah:
- Jews; Bethlehem; Jerusalem; Calvary; Nazareth; Egypt; Asia; Aramaic; Leo; Pisces; Jesuits; Christians/Christendom/Church; right hand of throne of God; Olivet; Teman; Jordan; Mormons; El Salvador; Christchurch; St Kitts;

Simon Peter/Cephas barjona "short bushy white beard and good/full head of white hair"
- Jews; Rome? Babylon? Joppa; Antioch; (Petra?) Westminster/London; Alva; Bethsaida; Capernaum; York; Jerusalem/Hierusalem; Galatia; Bithinia; higher Asia; Capadocia; Italy; Galilee; Caesarea Philipi; (Patricians?) Smurfs.

John/Juan the Elder/Divine/Presbyter/Beloved-disciple Boanerges bar/ben Zebedee
- to Greek/whole world; Asia/Turkey; Ephesus; Patmos; Bethsaida; Jerusalem/Palestine; Rome/Italy; Edessa; Beverley; Galilee; wilderness of Judea; Gaul? Antigua & Barbuda; Puerto Rico;

James/Jacob/Iago the Elder/Great Boanerges bar/ben Zebedee
- Santiago de Compostela / Spain? Jacobites/Egypt/Ethiopia? Sandiego; Jews/Judea; Jerusalem; Bethsaida; Roman; wilderness of Judea; Galilee; Samaria; Gethsemane;

Andrew
- Scotland; Naples; Scythia; Patara/Achaia/Greece; Asia Minor; Bethsaida/Capernaum; Russia; Euxine coast; Byzantium, Macedonia; Thrace; Galilee;

Matthew / Levi the Publican/Taxcollector / Evangelist
- to Hebrews/Jews/Judea/Levites; Salerno/Naples; Ethiopia; Capernaum; Macedonia; Roman; foreign nations; Macedonia; Persia; Media;

Nathanael? / Bartholomew
- Tiber/Rome; Cana/Galilee; Asia/Turkey; Armenia; Lycaonia; India; Arabia Felix; Armenia; (Ptolemaic?)

Philip "lover of horses"
- Ethiopia? (Macedonia?) Rome; Hierapolis in Phrygia; Ephesus; Bethsaida; Galilee; (Philippians?)

Judas Thomas/Didymus "twin"
- Madras/Malabar/India; Americas/Mexico/Peru; Otona/Naples; Syria; Persia/Parthia; Galilee; Taprobane; Nestorians; Jews; Sao Tome;

James/Jacob the Less/Younger/Brant bar/ben Alpaeus
- Jacobites/Egypt/Ethiopia? Israel/Jacob? Church of Holy Apostles in Rome; Jerusalem/Caerusalem? Palestine; Galilee; Pharisees;

Jude / Thaddeus / Lebbaeus
- Judah/Jews; Rome; Persia; Assyria; Galilee; Edessa;

Sim(e)on Zealotes/Canaanite
- Rome; Galilee; Canaan; Zealots; Egypt; Judea; Cyrene; Mauritania;

Judas Iscariot/Priest
- Crete? (Issachar?) Kerioth? Jews/Judea? Zealots? Sicari "assassins"? Galilee; Aceldama;

Joseph(us) of Arimathea:
- Aramathea; Glastonbury/Britain; GrailCastle/Sarras?

Nicodemus

Mary Magdalene
- Monk Bretton / Lund; Magdala; Talpiot? Barnsdale;

Cartaphilus the Wandering Jew:
- Jews; Calvary; St Alban's; Germany; Antwerp; Brussels/Belgium; Venice; Provence/France; Spain; Europe;

Matthias
- Basilica/Rome; Judea;

Joseph Barsabas

Saul/Paul/Pablo/Pol "little" the Apostle "Mercury" "bald, long beard, black hair"
- to Gentiles; Rome/Italy; Tarsus; Damascus; Ephesus; Galatia; Colossae; Thessalonika; Athens; Hebrews; Sutton Hoo; London; Alva; Leon; no particular parts, people in general; Benjamin; Antioch; Jerusalem; Laodicea;

Barnabas
- Italy; Cyprus; Salonika;

Stephen:
- Hungary; Camelot;

John Mark/Marcus
- Pharos/Alexandria/Egypt; Venice; to Romans;

Luke/Lucas:
- to Greeks/Greece; Padua in Italy;

Saint/Santa Nicholas/Claus:
- Russia; Ephesus; Pergamos; Germany; Greece; Myra/Lycia; Aberdeen; East; Nicea; Holy Land; (Macchiaveli;)

Ant(h)ony
- Egypt; Padua/Italy; Black Castle; Portugal;

Clement
- Rome; Alexandria; Metz;

Evaristus/Eucharistus or Eleutherius
- Bethlehem;

Julius
- Urbslegionis/"Caerleon"/"city of the legion"; Chester

Aaron
- city of the legion; (Avalon?); Chester;

Alban
- Verulam/St Albans/Waeclingcester; Germanus; (Albion;)

Amphibalus
- "Winchester"

Denis
- France; (Greece;)

George
- England; Georgia; Ormandine; Morocco/Blacks; Portugal; Dragon's Hill; Cappadocia; Grenada;

Cyril:
Alexandria; Jerusalem

Martin: Dover; London; Canterbury; Tours; San Marino;

Germanus:
- Auxerre; Maes Garmon; (Germany;)

Columba "dove":
- Iona "dove" / Scotland;

Patrick/Palladius "Moses"
- BannaVenta Berniae / Bannavem Taburniae; Nemthur; Ireland/Scotia; Rome; Cruachan Aichle / Mt Eli; Dunum/Down;

Dyfrig/Dubricius: Silcester; Badon/Bath; Legions/Caerleon;

David/Devi/Dewi
- St David's/Menevia/Wales; Ormandine; (Davy Jones Locker?)

Dominic
- Dominica; Dominican Republic;

Italy: Mark, Luke, Paul, Thomas; Matthew; Andrew; Simon; Philip; Peter; Matthias; Jude; James; Batholomew; Francis of Assisi; Italus;

Rome: Caesar; Simon; Philip; Peter; Matthias; Jude; James; Batholomew; Paul; Clement; Ben Hur; St Patrick; Arthur; Simon Magus; Telemachus/Almachus; Fagan/Duvan; (Jerome;)

Naples: Thomas; Matthew; Andrew;

Venice: Mark

Padua: Luke; Antony;

Alexandria: Mark; Clement; Cyril;

Ephesus:
- Artemis/Diana; Paul; Jesus; John; Nicholas;

Pergamum/Pergamos:
- John; Jesus; Antipas; Satan; Nicholas; Balaam;

Brittany/Armorica/Letavia:
Pol; Cado; Maudet;

Cornwall
Corineus; Piran; Petroc; Michael; Keyne; Richard;

Antioch: Ignatius; Peter; Paul;

Smyrna: Polycarp; Jesus; John; Myrrha?

Caesarea: Basil; Eusebius;

Milan: Ambrose

York: Ebrauc; Constantine; Sanxo; Pyramus; Thadiocus; Peter;

Gloucester: Claudius; Gloui; Eldad/Samson; Theon

London/Trinovantum: Ludd; Mellitus; Theon; son of Mordred; Guithelin; Vortigern;

Menevia/St David's: Patrick; David; Asser; (Nennius/Ninnian?)

Bangor: Daniel; Elvod; Dinooth;

Dorchester: Birinus

Troyes: Lupus; Chretien;

Tours: Martin

Germany: Nicholas/Claus; Walpurga; Boniface; Michael; Martin Luther; (Germanus;)

Dover: Julius Caesar; "Fred"; Count of Saxon Shore;

Dol/Dole: Samson; Kilian/Chelianus

"Winchester": Amphibalus; Diwanuius;

Alclud: Eledanius

Metcaut/Lindisfarne/Holyisland: Cuthbert; Urien/Theodoric;

Silchester/Calleva: Dubricius; Mauganius

Llandaff: Chelianus

Canterbury/Dorobernia: Augustine; Alcuin/Albinus;

Hwiterne, "Southern Picts": Martin, Ninnian

Llanpatern: Patrnus/Padarn; Cynoc;

Ireland: Patrick/Palladius; Auxilius; Isserninus; Gildas;

City of the Legion: Lleon/Leil; Beli; St Julius; St Aaron; Dubricius/Dyfrig; Merlin; David; Arthur; Tremounus; Cynoc;

"heresies": Arian; Pelagian; Priscillian; Albigensian; Simon Magus;

Jews:
Judah; Jeoud; Smyrna; Philadelphiia; Babylon; NYC; Hollywood; Israel; Germany; Persia; Rome; wandering; Jesus; Peter; Paul; Matthew; TWJ;

2 Peter & Paul; Paul & Barnabas; US/west/Nato/right & SU/east/Warsaw/left; Peter & John; Moses & Elijah; Alpha & Omega; Sea Beast & Earth Beast; Serpent & Dragon; Cain & Abel; Judah & Benjamin; Ephraim & Manasseh; Bedver & Kay; 2nd battle of Badon; cherubs in Eden; cherubs on ark;

3: Golden Triangle; BeNeLux; Peter John & James; US UK SU at Yalta; 3rd world; 3 global zones; lobes brain; Trinity; Triads; trine; tertiary; terms; tribes/tribune; third estate; tiers; women take Arthur to Avalon; 3 x 3/4 battles of Arthur; Tribruit "3 rivers"; 3 several battles"; Noah Job Daniel; friends/comforters of Job; sons of Noah;

6: 6th day man Genesis 1; 666; fingers/toes giants; F in English alphabet; W in Hebrew numerals; Trs;

7 spirits; churches; deacons; "battles/sites Pa Gur"; heavens; dispensations; Cainite generations; sages; loaves; remaining horns beast; heads beast; continents; rivers Nile/Sind/Severn; seas; islands of Persephone/Proserpine; hills Rome; kings Rome; colours rainbow; tones; nitrogenous bases; days week; stages/steps ziggurat/tower; septenary spheres; stars Pleiades; planets'stars; climate zones; G7; aeons ONA; root races Theosophy; sabbath/saturday; branched Menorah candlestick; champions of Christendom/Europe; 7 saints lives mention Arthur;

8 sons of Jesse; souls in Ark; 8th day man Adam; Seth 8th after Cainites; G8; mercury; unit 88; Atlantis "8th continent";

10 horns beast; kings Atlantis; lost tribes; arcs/bows of Egyptian world; worlds/trees in Eddas; nations formed council of Europe in 1940s after the war; countries in EEC; decimal; decade; decalogue; decile; dean; digits/fingers/toes; X in Roman numerals;

12 Caesars; Nights Xmas; battles Arthur; signs Zodiac; kings Scheria/Phaeacia; Apostles/Disciples; Tribes/Patriarchs; Aesir; Olympians; "12th planet"; stars Nato/Un flag; knights round table; Paladins;

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Is there a connection of 12 battles of Arthur with list of 12 apostles?

"Peder a gymerth Rovain.
Andras Achiam.
Iago yr Yspayn.
Thomas yr India.
Jeuan yr Asia.
Matheus Macedonia.
Phylip Galileam.
Bartholomeus Liconiam.
Symon zelotis Egiptum.
Mathias Judeam.
Iago Brant yr argluyt Caerusalem.
Paul a rei ereill ni roded rãnav priant vdunt, namyn pregethu y gyffredin ir pobloed y lle y mynynt. hyn sy mewn llyver cronicles a scrivenodd John Stowe."

"The holy apostles = dispersed whole earthe.
Peter = Hierusalem - Galatia Bithinia + higher Asia, Capadocia yn al Italia.
John in Asia.
Andrew = Euxine coast, Scithia, Byzans, Macedonia & fyrme Greece.
Thomas = Parthiãs Indians & Tabroban isle.
Another = Egypte & Libia:
Another the uttermost coastes of the Ocean, + Britayne isles."

"Italy claims 13 apostles -- Rome 7, Naples 3...."

Santiago de Compostela has similarities to Camelot and/or city of the legion (founded by Heli/Beli/Eli) and Richborough/Rutupi. (Cf Jugein of Legecester; Beli and Iago/Jago 613. Campus Aelecti, Campus Heli, Mais-beli.)

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Which disciple/apostle was "greatest"?
- Matthew was author of first gospel to Jews/Hebrews.
- Peter was nominated as leader of apostles by Jesus in Matthew 16. He went into empty tomb ahead of John
- John was the beloved disciple, and his gospel is the one mystical one and written to whole world, and he had the Revelation given through him. One of the two sons of thunder. He beat Peter to empty tomb in running race.
- Paul wrote most of the New Testament.
- Nathanael was "a true Israelite indeed in whom is no guile"
- James was leader of christians/apostles in Jerusalem.
So the answer is none was because they and we all have different gifts and abilities and are all equal in/before Christ/God.

Tuesday, October 23, 2018

Ancient Origins of Name Jesus?

A while ago i discovered that the "Yahweh/Jehovah" name of the Lord/God of the Judaeo-Christian Bible seems to have early origins and has seeming possible matches in other cultures (see post here http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37415 ). (Some other people have also suggested Judah's name is evidence of the name Jhvh being as early as that. Yhwh was mentioned in Noah's blessing of Shem.) I have also wondered if the name Jesus/Yeshua also might have early origins and matches in other cultures mythologies too. Below is an example list of some possibly similar-to-Jesus gods/deities names.

Firstly the name Jesus has various different spellings/versions of Jesus/Iesus, J(eh)oshua, Je(ho)shua, Jehoshua(h), Yeshua, Jesuel, Isa, Ihs, (Yeishu?)

Celtic/Roman: Esus
Slavic: Jessis/Yezda,
Greek/Trojan: Jason, Theseus, Rhesus, Zeus/Ievs, Jeoud,
Hittite/Hurrian: Teshub,
Egyptian: Shu/Yshsh ("void/empty" / "sneeze/splutter"), Osiris,
Hebrew: Aish ("man, Adam"), Ishi "husband", Jeush, Joses, Isaiah, Jashar, Isra(el), Asshur, Jew, Jeoud, Jess(i)e, Josiah, Elisha, Moses,
Sumerian/Akkadian: Ziusudra, Is(h)kur, Ishullanu, Apsu, Enzu, Gishzida, Ninazu,
Elamite: Susinak,
Iranian: Shaoshyant, Gosh/Geus,
Afghan/Kalash/Kati/Kafir: Jestan/Jestak,
Indian: Vishnu, Shiva, Isvara,
Chinese: Joss,
West African: Eshu/Edshu,

From this list we selected 4 seemingly best candidates:
- Ziusudra: Jesus/Jehoshua means "God/Lord + salvation/saves" (and he & baptism is compared to Noah's Ark/Flood, and he is the seed of the woman), Ziusudra was a flood saviour (name means "he who saw life" or "spirit"? and he took the seed of all life in his ark) The two names maybe have 5/6 similar letters (z)iusua & j(e)osua.
- Ishkur: Ishkur is a wind/storm god also connected with thunder/lightning, clouds, hail, rain, streams, and the "silver lock of the heart of heaven". His beast vehicle is a lion(-dragon), (or bull). He was the son of An or Enlil, and brother of Utu, and twin brother of Enki.
- Aish/Ishi: Ishi is from "you will not longer call me Baali "master/lord" but will call me Ishi "husband" in a biblical prophet book.
- Shu/Yshsh: Joshua was in exodus almost as early as Genesis. Joshua was the son of Nun. Joshua came out of Egypt with Moses and his name might be Egyptian origin? Shu is associated with Num/Nun in the 3 Hermes. Massey linked Shu with Moses. Shu's name means "void/empty" or "sneeze/splutter", and his nature as a god is connected with "air, dry/hot, Atlas". The "void/empty" meaning of Yshsh is similar to meaning of Abel.
It looks like Shu/Yshsh might be the most likely (though Shu himself might have earlier origins, and he might possibly match Ishkur?)
I might be wrong though because Joshua's name was originally Hoshea/Oshea before being changed/altered to Joshua.

Wednesday, October 17, 2018

Israelite Tribes

This is a list of the tribes of Israel in the bible and the persons and places associated with them, and namesakes. We have done all the tribes except for 4 which we have not yet been able to finish (Levi, Judah, Dan, Joseph).

Reuben: Shechem, Hanoch, Elizur, Shammua, Dathan/Abiram, Peleth/Eliab, Jazer/Gilead, Heshbon, Aroer/Arnon, Ramoth, Bohan, Bezer, Merari, Beerah, Pul, Adina, Eliezer.

Simeon: Shechem, Jemuel/Nemuel/Shemuel, Shelumiel/Shemuel, Shaphat, Shephatiah, Zimri, Seir, Pelatiah.

Levi: Maccabees, Jeremiah, Hilkiah, Aaron, Korah, Moses, John Baptist, Zechariah, Eli, Miriam, Amran, Kohath, Matthew/Levi, Josephus, Ezekiel, Ezra, Shechem, Priestly/Aaronic Messiah, Jesua, kin of high priest in John, Lewinsky, Levine, ....

(Priests: Melchizedek, Aaron, Jeremiah, Macabees, Boethusian, Jesus, Zechariah, Micah, Jeshua, Prester John, Wicked priest, Ezra.)

Judah: Jeoud, David, Absalom, Adonijah, Rehoboam, Solomon, Menelik, Zedekiah, Zerubbabel, Jesus, Joseph, Mary, Nathan, Zerah, Perez, Boaz, Caleb, Kenaz, Othniel, Hillel, Jude, James, Herod, Judith, Judas, Tekoa/Amos, Daniel, Jerahmeelites, ....

(Kings/queens: Nimrod, Melchizedek, Pharaoh, Jobab (Edomite), Moloch/Milcom, Adonizedek, Adonibezek, Abimelech, Saul, David, Absalom, Solomon, Sheba/Makeda/Tamrin/Bilqis/Nicaule, Lemuel, Jeroboam, Jezebel, Omri, Ahasuerus, Maccabees/Hasmonean, Melkiresha, Herod, Jesus, Abaddon/Apollyon.)

Gad: Ziphion, Eliasaph, Gaddiel, Gaddi, Geuel, Zephon, Dibon, Horhaggidgad, Gilead, Ramoth, Baalgad, Hazargaddah, Migdalgad, prophet Gad, Bani, Aroer, Gadi, Bethgader, Ezer, Azgad, Malcam.

Asher: Anna, Imnah, Pagiel, Sethur, Serach, Ahihud, Bethshean? Mishal/Mashal, Acco, Baana.

Dan: Daniel, Samson, Antichrist, Eldad Hadani, ....

Naphtali: Ebal, Jesus, Jahzeel/Jahziel, Ahira, Nahbi, Pedahel, Kedesh, Bethshemesh, Barak, Ahimaaz, Hiram, Benhadad, Pul, Jeremoth, Tobit, Elijah/Tishbite.

Isacchar: Gerizzim, Tola, Nethanel, Igal, Paltiel, Bethshean/Ibleam/Dor? Kishion, Deborah, Dodo, Jehoshaphat, Baasha, Kedesh, Omri, Judas Iscariot.

Zebulun: Sered/Sarid, Eliab, Gaddiel, Elizaphan, Jokneam, Kitron, Elon, Rimmono, Ishmaiah, Jesus.

Joseph: Messiah ben Joseph, Joseph Smith, Joses, Josephus, Goebbels, J Campbell, Asaph, Lehi, Manasseh, Ephraim, other sons, Machir, Gilead, Samuel, Joshua, Nephi, Laman, Joseph father of Jesus, ....

Ephraim: Jesus, Elishama, Hoshea/Joshua, Shuthelah, Kemuel, Gezer, Tappuah, Timnathserah, Shechem, Eleazar/Phineas, Timnathheres, (Ehud,) Deborah, Amalek, (Gideon,) Tola, (Jephthah,) Gileadites, Abdon, Micah, Levite (Judges), Elkanah, Samuel, Ishbosheth, Baalhazor, Absalom, Sheba, Jeroboam, gate of Ephraim, Helez, Benaiah, Zemaraim, Abijah, Asa, Jehoshaphat, (Amaziah,) Zichri, Azariah, Hezekiah, son of Remaliah, Samaria, Jareb, Tyre.

Manasseh: Machir, Gamaliel, Gaddi, Gilead, Zelopehad, Jair, Hanniel, Tappuah, Bethshean, Golan, Taanach, Gideon, Abimelech, Jephthah, Pul, Aner, Asriel, Jerusalem, Adnah, Joel, Iddo, Hezekiah.

Benjamin: Ephratha, Bela, Abidan, Palti, Elidad, Jericho, Gibeon, Kish/Cush, Saul, Mordechai, Esther, Paul, Jebus, Ehud, Gibeah, Mari, Rimmon, Zelzah, Geba, Baanah/Rechab, Beeroth, Shimei, Gera/Ela, Sheba, Zela, Ittai/Ithai, Sallu, Abiezer, Jaasiel, Eliada, Anathoth, Jeremiah, Jerusalem, Irijah, Gilead, Ishbosheth, Jonathan.

(Prophets/"Prophets": Enoch, Moses, The/That Prophet like Moses, Balaam, Deborah, Samuel, Nathan, Gad, Elijah, (Gehazi,) Elishah, Joel, Isaiah, Jonah, Huldah, Jeremiah, Baruch, Ezekiel, Daniel, Anna, Jesus, Agabus, Merlin, Mohammed, Joseph Smith, (Barry Smith said he was not a prophet as such,) False Prophet.)

Jews/Yiddish / Hebrews/Ivrit / Israelis / Chosen:
Abraham, Adler? Barabbas, Barkochba, Bengurion, Beria, Benhur, Bambergs, Columbus? Cagliostro, Cohen, Dreyfus, Neil Daimond, King David, Daniel, Kirk Douglas, Disraeli, Esther, Kurt Eisner, Eisenhower, Einstein, Ann Frank, Freud, Franco, Gamaliel, Herzl, "Heydrich", Hamilton (US history), Herod, Hasidic, Hillel, EM House, Benny Hinn, Isaac, Jacob/Israel, Jesus, Juwes (JTR), Joseph, Judith, Judah, Judas, Jude, Koestler, Kuhn, John Key (part Jewish ancestry, NZ), Levi, Lewinsky, Anton Lavey, Peter Marsh, Moses, Karl Marx, Mordechai, Macabees, Matthew/Levi, Maimonides, Netanyahu, Paul/Saul, Perez, Petrus Romanus, Peter, Rothschilds, Ravage, Rabin, Bob Sell (NZ), Sylvester Stalone (Rambo), Sanders (US pres candidate), Shamir, Zecharia Sitchin, Shicklegruber (Hilter), Samson, Teacher of Righteousness, Trosky, Tobit, The Wandering Jew, Immanuel Velikovsky, Julius Vogel (NZ), Weishaupt, Wicked priest, Weizman.

A related topic to this post's subject is the question of whether it was 70 or 72 or 75 souls who came down into Egypt with Jacob. So here is what we put together on that:

Was it 70 or 72 or 75 souls that came with Jacob/Israel down into Egypt? (Genesis 46, Exodus 1, Lxx, Acts 7, Josephus, Jashar.) Was Stephen wrong?
Firstly there is a common connection in myth etc of 10 & 12, 40 & 42, 70 & 72, 100 & 120. Eg 70/72 is found in biblical with the 70/72 nations of Genesis 10, the 70 elders/Sanhedrin, the Septuagint, the 70/72 disciples of Jesus. Numbers are also often sometimes rounded off.
However Stephen's 75 is probably from the Septuagint since i have seen that that source does say "75" in Genesis 46 & Exodus 1.

66 sons/daughters & grandsons/greatgrandsons, + 3/9 (Jose, Manasseh, Ephraim), + 1 (Jacob/Israel), = 70/75.

32/33 (6 s/b, 1/2 d, 4 s, 6/5 s (5/4 s, 1 s, -3 s), 3 s, +/- 1 d, -2 s, 1 s, 2 s, 2 gs, 4 s, 3 s) of Leah,
+ 14/18 (2 s, 10/9/7 s/gs, 2 s, - other sons, 1 gs, 1 ggs, 2 gs, 1 ggs) of Rachel,
= 47,
+ 7 (2, 4, 1) of Bilhah,
= 54,
+ 16 (2 s, 7 s, 4/3 s, 1 d, 2 gs) of Zilpah,
= 69/70,
+ 1 Jacob/Leah,
= 70/71/75,
+ 3 (Leah, Blihah, Zilpah, - Rachel),
= 75?
(1 missing in the Leah group has been proposed to be explained by "Jacob had another (missing) daughter" since verse 15 says "daughters (plural)", possibly though it might be either Jacob or Leah or the Canaanitess or Jochebed or Tamar or Hirah?)

Note by the way that Benjamins sons list differs between Genesis, Numbers, and Chronicles. (Judah's 5 sons in Chronicles also is different?)

Sunday, October 14, 2018

Joseph and Jesus

Continuing our Old Testament ante-types of Jesus we now show how Joseph was a type of Jesus:

Joseph: (dreams of) Joseph; "I will save the house of Joseph"; "the house of Joseph a flame"; "the God of Armies, will be gracious to the remnant of Joseph"; "Joseph [shall have two] portions"; "the sons of Jacob and Joseph"
Jesus: Jesus son of Joseph; Joseph step-father of Jesus had dreams too; Messiah ben Joseph; Joses half-brother of Jesus.

Joseph: 12 brothers.
Jesus: 12 disciples/apostles.

Joseph: favourite son of his father Jacob/Israel
Jesus: only begotten son; this is my son in who I am well pleased.

Joseph: had a coat of many colours.
Jesus: had a seamless cloak/robe with tassels; "they parted my raiment".

Joseph: "Shepherd of Israel, you who lead Joseph like a flock"; Joseph "was feeding the flock with his brothers"; "from there is the shepherd" (Gen 49)
Jesus: the Good Shepherd; "feed my sheep"; Lamb of God; Abel's sacrifice.

Joseph: dream that 11 brothers bowed; 11 brothers bowed to Joseph in Egypt.
Jesus: "every knee shall bow"

Joseph: sold for silver peices.
Jesus: sold for 30 silver pieces.

Joseph: "The patriarchs, moved with jealousy against Joseph"
Jesus: Jewish leaders were jealous of Jesus

Joseph was thought by Jacob/Israel to have been dead
Jesus was supposed to not to have risen after the crucifixion.

Joseph: Joseph in Egypt
Jesus: "out of Egypt i have called my son"

Joseph: "him who was separate from his brothers"
Jesus: Nazirite "consecrated/separated"? was in desert(ed) places. His half-brothers didn't believe in him until after resurrection.

Joseph: "Joseph was sold for a slave".
Jesus: Jesus was a "suffering servant", he did the Father's will not his own; Judas/Jews betrayed Jesus to the Romans for crucifiction.

Joseph: "God was with him".
Jesus: God/Father was with him; Emmanuel "God with us".

Joseph: resisted temptations.
Jesus: resisted temptations.

Joseph falsely accused; "was silent before his accuser" (Potiphar's wife)?
Jesus falsely accused of blasphemy, and stiring up trouble, and rivaling Caesar.

Joseph: baker & cupbearer.
Jesus: two thieves one on either side of Jesus on Cross.

Joseph: was about 30 years old.
Jesus: was about 30 years old.

Joseph: called Zaphenath-paneah which might mean "..."; saved Egypt and world from the famine.
Jesus: ....

Joseph was a adon "lord" over the land, to who they called abrech "bow the knee"
Jesus was Adonai/Kyrios/Marya "lord", rabboni "chief/master/teacher"

Joseph: famine called "great tribulation" in Acts.
Jesus: great tribulation in Revelation.

Joseph: son Ephraim ("..."); Joseph is "an offshoot of a fruitful/fruit-bearing tree/vine".
Jesus: Bethlehem-Ephratha; called sprout/shoot/branch; Vine; "by their fruits you will know them".

Joseph: gave bread to hungry (famine victims)
Jesus: gave loaves and fishes; was the true manna/bread from heaven.

Joseph is considered to have some sort of close connection with Imhotep who was an architect, and was connected with healing.
Jesus was a carpenter and a healer.

Joseph: not recognised by brothers until
"on the 2nd time Joseph made himself known to his (12) brothers/brethren".
Jesus: (Judas) Thomas missed 1st appearance and doubted, he saw Jesus at 2nd appearance and then believed; Jesus is not accepted/seen/found by brethren Jews until last days/end times.

Joseph: 70/72/75 souls came with Jacob
Jesus: 70/72 disciples.

Joseph: Joseph/Zaphenath might be Sekhemhet/Djosertyankh who had a large fennel branch on his (empty) sarcophaus
Jesus: called sprout/shoot/branch (golden bough) (&/or seed).

Joseph: "the birthright was Joseph's"; "his (Reuben's) birthright was given to the sons of Joseph (Eprhraim)"
Jesus: only begotten son of God; first of the resurrected.

Joseph: "He appointed it in Joseph for a testimony".
Jesus: "this is my blood of the new covenant/testimony"; true and faithful witness.

Joseph: Great Sphinx of Giza facing East might be the head of Joseph/Zaphenath and/or Lion of Judah of Genesis 49.
Jesus: Lion of Judah, "Aslan"; called the Day Star.

Joseph: the pyramids might be the eternal mountains/hills of Genesis 49, and they may have been built by Joseph.
Jesus: was a "carpenter/architect/builder/mason".

Joseph: "Let [the blessing] come on the head of Joseph, On the crown of the head of him"
Jesus: annointed one; head of the church; crown of thorns; Golgotha/Calvary "Skull Hill".

Joseph: "from there is the shepherd, the stone of Israel" (Gen 49); Messiah ben Joseph.
Jesus: Good Shepherd; cornerstone; Messiah; son of Joseph; from Bethlehem-Ephratha.

Joseph: "God will surely visit you".
Jesus: the long promised visitation of lamb/son of God; Jesus cried over Jerusalem/Jews because they "knew not the time of visitation"; Emmanuel "God with us".

Joseph: Different king who knew not Joseph.
Jesus: Herod; Pilate/Emperor; Pope; Hitler; Antichrist.

Joseph: "as the firstborn of a bull"
Jesus: in the beginning was the Word; only begotten son of God; 1st of the resurrection.

Joseph: he will push peoples all together to the ends of the earth.
Jesus: gospel to all nations; rule the earth with rod of iron in millenium; every knee shall bow and every tongu confess that Jesus is lord.

Joseph: "The archers have sorely grieved him, shot at him, and persecute him"; "they are not grieved for the affliction of Joseph".
Jesus: born in a manger/cave, death of step father, temptation, living sinless life, not marrying, beheading of friend John Baptist, being called illegitimate, being rejected, betrayed by friend, deserted by disciples, sweating blood, spat at, beard thorn out, beating with a reed, crown of thorns, suffered scourging/whipping, crucifiction, bearing our sins and sicknesses on cross, given vinegar to drink, forsaken by God when took our sins; persecution by Saul of Tarsus; stoning of Stephen.

Joseph: "the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim".
Jesus: son of woman rules with a rod of Iron; Ark containing Aaron's rod symbol of Jesus.

Addenda/Supplement:

Famous Joseph/Joses/Asaph namesakes: Joseph son of Jacob, "St" Joseph father of Jesus, Joseph of Aramathea, Josephus/Josephes son of Joseph of Aramathea, high priest Joseph (ben) Caiaphas, Flavius Josephus, Joseph Cartaphilus, Joseph Stalin, Joseph Goebbels, Asaph in Psalms; Franz Josef (Austria); Josephine Beauharnais/Bonaparte; Joseph Smith (Mormons); Joseph Chamerblain; Jose ha/the Galilean; judge Joseph Force Carter; Michael Yussef (pastor on TV); Joseph Campbell; Joseph Barsabas (Acts); Joseph Bonaparte; Giuseppe Mazzini; Giuseppe Garibaldi.

Saturday, October 13, 2018

OT types of Jesus Christ

People in the Old Testament of the Bible who seem to be pre-types of Jesus Christ (the Messiah) include Abel, Noah's Ark, Melchizedek, Isaac, Joseph*, lion of Judah, Moses*, Ark of the Covenant, Joshua, Samson, Boaz, David, Tutankhamen, Absalom? Solomon, Isa(iah), Ishi, Jonah, Josiah? Jeshua/Zerubbabel.

We recently posted on the Ark of the Covenant as symbolizing Jesus here : http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=23942&PID=723110#723110 .

We wish to especially write posts of the correspondences of Joseph and Moses with Jesus. In this post we post on correspondences of Moses and Jesus. Joseph will hopefully be a forthcoming post (Lord willing).

Moses: was a beautiful/handsome baby/child (Acts, Hebrews).
Jesus: is symbolised by the wonderful golden ark of the covenant.

Moses: saved from massacre of babies by Pharaoh.
Jesus: saved from massacre of babies by Herod.

Moses: may be Pepi 1 & 2. Pepi on mothers lap similar to Mary and baby Jesus.
Jesus: Mary and baby in Catholic & Orthodox pictures/statues.

Moses: Miriam sister of Moses
Jesus: Mary mother of Jesus; Mary Magdalene friend/disciple of Jesus

Moses: "was instructed in all the wisdom"
Jesus: "where did this man get all this wisdom/knowledge?" debated with rabbis/scribes when 12 years old.

Moses: take off your sandles for this is holy ground.
Jesus: John said not worthy to unlatch the sandals of Jesus feet.

Moses: "Moses, his chosen", appointed as ruler and judge by God/Lord; had been rejected by Jews; "Moses, his servant, and Aaron, whom he had chosen".
Jesus: chosen/annointed, appointed as king and judge by God/Lord; has been rejected by Jews; Jesus identified with high priest in Hebrews.

Moses: did not realise God was given them salvation.
Jesus: name means "Jah salvation/saves"; the Saviour; "salvation is of the Jews".

Moses: "was powerful in words and deeds"; "They (Moses & Aaron) performed miracles among them, and wonders"
Jesus: was great/powerful in words/teaching and deeds/miracles/healings.

Moses: passover lamb.
Jesus: lamb of god died on/at passover.

Moses: came out of Egypt.
Jesus: "out of Egypt i have called my son".

Moses: lead Israelites/Hebrews through Red/Reed Sea; "all baptised in same cloud and sea".
Jesus: baptised by John; sign of Jonah; died and cross, and we all die and raise with him. (Cloud = holy spirit, or baptism of water/John?)

Moses: divided the waters; arms held up by 2 people on either side;
Jesus: 2 thieves on either side of cross; divided sheep/wheat & goats/tares.

Moses: "the servant/man of God"; "was faithful in all his house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were afterward to be spoken"
Jesus: son/servant of God/Father; "Christ is faithful as a Son over his house".

Moses: Mt Sinai, Mt Hor, Mt Nebo.
Jesus: sermon on mount, mount of transfiguration, (Mt Tabor?) Mt Calvary/Golgotha, Mt of Olives/Olivet, (Mt Zion).

Moses: God gave the law/commandments/Torah through him; "to love Yahweh your God, and to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and to cleave to him, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul"; "just as we listened to Moses in all things".
Jesus: the word of god; kept the law ("that the law of Moses may not be broken"); "a new commandment i give you"; "he who loves me keeps my commandments"; all law/commandments in love lord and love neighbour; fulfilled the law; the royal law; writes law in our hearts.

Moses: two tablets ("inscribed on both sides". )
Jesus: God writes law in our hearts (two halfs of heart).

Moses: 3 days up Mt Sinai ("early in morning" of 3rd day) (Moses went "down and up").
Jesus: 3 days in tomb (like Jonah) ("day begins at sunrise not sunset, Jesus rose near dawn on Sunday").

Moses: "has given you circumcision".
Jesus: circumcised on 8th day; circumcises hearts via cross/baptism.

Moses: sprinkled everything with blood (with wool & hyssop); "this is the blood of the covenant".
Jesus: lamb of god; blood of christ who died on cross; cleanses/purifies us like hyssop does; new covenant as he said with the wine/blood at Last Supper.

Moses: "speaking to Moses to make it according to the pattern he had seen"; "God has spoken to Moses"; "He made known his ways to Moses"; "whom Yahweh knew face to face".
Jesus: what i hear/see i speak/do; do the Father's will not own.

Moses: "had Moses, ... not stood before him in the breach, to turn away his wrath"
Jesus: stood in the breach for us on cross, saves us from wrath of God.

Moses: 40 yrs old; 40 years in wilderness.
Jesus: may have died about 40 years old ('his generation")? 40 days in wilderness (day can = year); Jesus was "in the desert(ed) places".

Moses: Nehushtan serpent on cross.
Jesus: died on the cross.

Moses: brought forth water from rock.
Jesus: springs of living water from heart; thirst no more.

Moses: manna from heaven.
Jesus: "I Am the true bread/manna from heaven"; versus Mammon (of unrighteousness).

Moses: "as i was with Moses" (Joshua); "whom Yahweh knew face to face"
Jesus: God/Father was with him; "as I and the Father are One"; "the Word was with God"; Emmanuel "God with us".

Moses: "they feared Moses all the days of his life".
Jesus: scribes & pharisees feared/envied Jesus all his adult life.

Moses: god will raise you up a prophet like me, "It will be, that every soul that will not listen to that prophet will be utterly destroyed from among the people"; suceeded by Joshua; "There has not arisen a prophet since in Israel like Moses".
Jesus: John said he was not that prophet; Jesus was a prophet like Moses; Jesus was raised up; reveleation tells of a 'the false prophet' in last days; everyone who doesnt accept Jesus is lost.
Mohammed: claimed to be the Prophet.

Moses name might be related to Messiah? "saved from water".
Jesus Christ was the messiah. Saviour.

Moses: founder of Judaism.
Jesus: founder of Christianity.

Moses: disappeared when/after died.
Jesus: ascended to heaven after died.

Moses: "we are disciples of Moses"
Jesus: disciples.

Moses: "The scribes and the Pharisees sat on Moses' seat"; ("the right hand of Moses"?)
Jesus: throne of David; seated at right hand of God; mercy seat.

Moses: "death reigned from Adam to Moses.
Jesus: Adam to Jesus/Cross.

(Moses: "beacame an alien resident in Midian" (Acts).
Mohammed: in Arabia.
Jesus: comes from Teman/Bozrah in prophets; was in desert(ed) places.)

Moses: reincarnation of Seth in Jewish legend.
Jesus: reincarnation of Seth in some traditions.

Moses: "The children of Israel wept for Moses"
Jesus: Zechariah 12:10-14.

Saturday, September 8, 2018

Sea Peoples

A possibly important evidence for the correct match of Biblical chronology with Egyptian &/or Mesopotamian chronology may be whether we can find the Sea Peoples of the 19th and 20th dynasty in bibilcal history. If we can find a match for them then it would help confirm that Shishak is 19th dynasty not 22nd dynasty. I have surveyed the bible and made a list of possible matches for the Sea Peoples (see list below), and from my list the 3 or 4 most likely candidates are in the times of Asa, Jehoshaphat, the pre-prophetic period, and Uzziah/Azariah. I find it very interesting that one translation says "large crowd from the region of the sea" in Jehoshaphat's reign, which is a similar phrase to "Sea Peoples" or "Peoples of the Sea". This would make Ramses 3 roughly contemporary or near contemporary with Asa or Jehoshaphat or Uzziah/Azariah, and this fits well with Shishak in the 19th dynasty.

Possible candidate matches for the '(North) Sea Peoples' (Haunebut, Npiam/P3ym) of Merneptah & Ramses 3 in biblical history:

(Firstly note that the Sea Peoples may be linked with the Atlanteans, Phoenicians (Spanuth), Pelasgian Thalassocracy just after Trojan war (Rohl), Keftiou?)

7/"10"/14 sons of Japheth (Genesis 10).
Enemies of Egypt (Exodus 1:10).
Philistim from Caphtor at same time as Exodus (Deut 2:23).
Philistim/Philistines between Samson & David.
Kreti/Cherethites & Pleti/Pelethites of David.
Phoenicians arrival just before David & Solomon.
Libyans, Sukkim & Cushites vs Rehoboam (2 Chron 12:3).
Libyans & Cushites vs Asa (2 Chron 14:9, 16:8).
"no peace ... many disorders among all the inhabitants of the lands. ... nation against nation" in Asa's reign (2 Chron 15:5-6)? *
Alien residents in Asa's reign (2 Chron 15:9)?
32 kings vs Ahab (1 Ki 20:1, 22:31)?
Surrounding kingdoms of Jehoshaphat's reign (2 Chron 17:10, 20:29)?
Philistines tribute to Jehoshaphat (2 Chron 17:11).
Meunites/Ammonim & vast army or "large crowd from the region of the sea" vs Jehoshaphat (2 Chron 20:1-2). *
Ships of Tarshish of Jehoshaphat & Ahaziah (1 Ki 22:48, 2 Chron 20:36-37).
Hittite (2 Ki 7:6)?
Philistines (2 Ki 8:2).
Philistines & Arabs/Cushites vs Jehoram (2 Chron 21:16, 22:1).
Kreti/Cherethites/Carites of Joash (2 Ki 11:4).
Gath in reign of Joash (2 Ki 12:17).
Ha Saponi/Philistines ("Pre-Prophetic period", Spanuth). *
Philistines, Arabs & Meunites vs Uzziah (2 Chron 26:6). *
Earthquake in reign of Uzziah & Jeroboam II (Amos 1:1).
Army of locusts "probably during Uzziah" (Joel 2, Revelation 9).
Philistines vs Ahaz (2 Chron 28:18).
Desert of the Sea (Isaiah 21:1)?
Philistines vs Hezekiah (2 Ki 18:8).
Sea Beast (Daniel 7, Revelation 12/13/17, Gildas).
Gog & Magog (Ezekiel 38:2, Revelation 20:8).
Orichalc (Revelation 1:15).

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List of Sea Peoples tribes/nations/peoples:
Akawasha/Aqaiwasha/Aqauasha/Ekwesh
Dardany/Dardani/Dandani
Den(y)e(n)/Danuna/Da(a)nau
Ekwesh/Akawasha/Aqaiwasha/Aqauasha
Haunebu(t)
Karkisha
Libu
Luk(k)a/Lukku/Liku/Leka
Ma(shauasha)/Meshwesh/Weshesh
Npaiam/P3ym
Peleset/Pereset
Qaiqasha
Sqrssw/Shekelesh/Shikala
S(h)ardana/Sherden
Seped
Toakkari/Tjekker/Sak(s)ar/Zak(k)ar(i)/Zekkaru
Tu(i)r(i)sha/Teresh/Tulisha
Uash(u)ash(a)/Vasasa/Weshesh/Meshwesh
Zak(k)ar(i)/Zekkaru/Toakkari/Tjekker/Sak(s)ar

Wednesday, September 5, 2018

Zerah the Ethiopian

(Updated July 2021.)

This is an updated improved version of our proposal that "Zerah the Ethiopian" of 2 Chronicles in the Bible may match Merneptah of the 19th dynasty of ancient Egypt.
Not long after the death of King Solomon a king Shishak/Susakim of Egypt raided Jerusalem in the reign of Rehoboam. A few decades later we are told in 2 Chronicles 14:9 that a king "Zerah the Cushite/Ethiopian" came against Asa the king of Judah with "a million troops and 300 chariots". Asa called on Yhwh who "struck the Ethiopians before Asa". Conventional scholars equate Shishak with Sheshonk/Soshenk of the 22nd dynasty (and maybe Zerah with Osorkhon of the 22nd or 23rd dynasty), but Rohl equates Shishak with Ramses 2 of the 19th dynasty, and we show in a separate article that the conventional match is surely wrong and Rohl's is surely right. So Shishak is found but Zerah still remains to be found. Rohl has proposed a couple of options for Zerah but they are not overly strong. We searched all through Egyptian history and the histories of some other neighbouring nations around Israel/Palestine, focusing especially but not exclusively on the 19th dynasty period, and of the various candidates we found it seems that only one is very likely: Merneptah of the 19th dynasty. There are a number of seeming possible details matches between Zerah and Merneptah which each and all together make a good case for them being one and the same historical person. Now let us consider these matches one by one.

Previous & succeeding matches, Shishak match:
A major evidence for Zerah being the likes of Merneptah is that it fits with previous and succeeding Egyptian-Biblical matches or synchronisms. David Rohl and others (including myself) have given good evidences for that King David has matches with the Amarna letters period, and that Shishak of Kings & Chronicles matches Ramses II (see separate articles). Zerah was only a couple or few decades after Shishak (Ramses II) raided Jerusalem, and Merneptah is just after Ramses II (Shishak). Other theories that Shishak & Zerah could match the likes of Ramses III & Userhau or Ramses 4 are unlikely because the candidates are too long after David & the Amarna period. Shishak as Ramses II also has better matches for the 480 yrs from the exodus to Solomon.
Perhaps interestingly we also might note that some have connected the Ethiopian Menelik with Shishak's raid, and Menelik's name is similar to the name of our Zerah candidate Merneptah who was son and successor of our Shishak candidate Ramses II, which might confirm our Shishak/Ramses and Zerah/Merneptah matches.

12th &/or 13th dyn - Moses/exodus
18th dyn Amarna period - David/Agur
15/16th to 19th dyn 400 yrs - 480 yrs exodus to Solomon
19th dyn Ramses 2 - Shishak/Solomon/Ano/Rehoboam
19th dyn Merneptah - Zerah/Asa? Menelik?
20th dyn Sea Peoples - Asa? or Jehoram? or Ahaz?

Name or meaning match:
The bible calls the leader of the invasion in Asa's reign Zerach ha Kushiy or Zare 0' Aithiopsi "Zerah/Zare the Kushite/Ethiopian" (Sera in Ethiopian, Terah in Ugaritic). The name Zerah/Terah might mean either "(the sun) shineth" or "dawn/eastern/sunrise/rising" or "station/laggard/delay" or "mountain goat" or "moon".
Although we don't know for sure that Merneptah had any Zerah-like name, or that Merneptah has a match with one of the meanings of the name Zerah, Merneptah does have a number of possible candidate names for the origin of the name Zerah including:
- Zerah could be a short nickname derived from Merneptah's throne name/prenomen Mery-netjeru, or his Horus name and/or birth name/nomen epithet Hetephermaat/Hotephima (eg the -tjeru or -tep-her-, similar to Sese/Shishak being a short nickname derived from Ramses).
- Merneptah's throne name Baenra "soul of Ra" is similar (excluding the -n-, except for B- instead of Z-).
- Merneptah's epithet "he who binds Gezer" is partly similar (ie the -zer).
- Zerah might be linked with the "seed" &/or "Isiriar/Ysrir/Isra-el" in the Merneptah Stele (since "seed" is zer in Semitic or Sumerian).
- Merneptah's title Perao is similar (except for P- instead of Z-).
- Merneptah may match the Terah of the Ugaritic texts who Velikovsky showed may match the biblical Zerah (see more details later/below).
- Merneptah might be linked with the "Tirhakah/Taharqa/Tearko the Ethiopian" who Hoeh said Mariette found had made the same sovereignty claim(s) as Ramses II had made.
- Zerah/Zare/Sera might be from Merneptah's birth name/nomen Se-ra/Sa-re "son of Ra/Re"?
- from his link with Osiris as seen in his Osiride sarcophagus.
- Bey confused Merneptah with Si-ptah whose name is also similar to Zerah (except -pt- instead or -r-).
- from Sethos-Ramesses who Merneptah as "Amenophis" is associated with in the story of Osarsiph? (I.e. the first two letters of his two names Seti-Ramses are similar to Ze-rah. Ramses means "son/born of Ra/sun", and Zerah/Sera could mean "son of Ra" in Egyptian.)
- from Merneptah's Horus name Ka-nakht-sa-ra?
- Terah/Zerah was a moon god, and there was an eclipse before Merneptah's Canaanite campaign.
- Merneptah was quite old when he succeeded due to Ramses having reigned so long, and he "would have preparedtobepharaoh" wich could match the "station/laggard/delay" meaning of Zerah?
It is also maybe possible that the name Mareshah/Moresheth and/or the Zephathah in the Zerah story might be a pun or a hint at the name Me(r)neptah/Menephta/Mer(i)enptah and/or Hetephermaat and/or Siptah similar to the Bible Skip Code?

Campaign match:
Chronicles says Zerah came against Judah, and the places mentioned in the campaign are Mareshah (or Moresheth-Gath?), Zephathah, and Gerar. Places mentioned in the campaign of Terah in the Ugaritic texts are Sapasites, Edom Rabbim/Rabbot, and Edom Serirot (or Sarira?)
Zerah's campaign in Chronicles could match either or both of Merneptah crushing a flash revolt in southern Syria, and/or the campaign in the Israel Stele or Merneptah Stele.
Places mentioned in the Merneptah Stele are Hatti, Canaan, Ashkelon, Gezer, Yanoam, Israel or Jezreel, and Hurru/Syria/Palestine.
Merneptah was made an/the overseer of the army in Ramses 2's 40th year.
The Stele saying "Canaan has been plundered in every evil way, .... (the people of) Israel is devastated, her seed is no more, Hurru has become a widow for Egypt.... .... Everyone who roamed he has subdued him" is maybe similar to Asa and the Judahites carried of a large amount of plunder and destroyed all the villages around Gerar and looted/plundered all these villages in 2 Chronicles 14:13-15 & 15:11.
Gezer in the Merneptah stele is not far from Gerar in the Chronicles Zerah story (and the names are similar).
The Stele saying "All lands, they are united in peace. Everyone who roamed he has subdued him" is also similar to there was peace and no war for years in Asa's reign (2 Chron 14:1, 6, 15:19).
I'm not sure if the fact that Merneptah's mummy was originally not found but was later found stashed in another place could possibly be connected with his defeat by Asa?
Merneptah is called Amenophis in Manetho's king list, and in Manetho's Osarsiph story king Amenophis and/or prince Seti-Ramses came from Ethiopia and chased the rebels from Avaris to the bounds of Syria. (Jerusalem is also mentioned earlier in the story.)

Cushite/Ethiopian match:
Zerah is called a Cushite/Ethiopian in the biblical text. Though according to Robert Palmer the original Hebrew or Greek words don't say/mean "Zerah the Ethiopian" but rather that Zerah came with the Ethiopians who are the main subject/emphasis in the verse. In 2 Chronicles chapter 16 it says Zerah came with Ethiopians.
Merneptah crushed a revolt and rebels in the south or Nubia.
[I had a note in my filed that "Merenptah employed large numbers of Ethiopian troops during his military campaigns into Palestine" but I am not sure if/what source this was from and I can't find it in web/net searching?]
Merneptah is also apparently the "Amenophis" in Manetho's king list and in Manetho's story of Osarsiph, and this latter Amenophis also went to Ethiopia and came back from there.
Merneptah's sarcophagus is carved in Osiride form, and Osiris or "Dionysus" also came from Ethiopia in some accounts. His several sarcophagi were carved in various stones including rose & black granite, and the black colour might mean Merneptah was partly of black race.
Merneptah's mummy had some black hairs.
Merneptah was at Thebes which is in Upper or South Egypt.
Or I'm not sure if it is possible if maybe Merneptah as crown prince (repa) might have been King's son of Kush (Viceroy of Nubia)??

Merneptah's father Ramses also has possible links with Kush/Ethiopia (and/or Zerah's/Merneptah's invasion might have been during Ramses reign).
Seti and Ramses are both connected with Cush/Nubia (refs Bey, Clayton).
Ramses 2 could be "Ethiopian" via his associations with: Memnon, black granite statue/head, temple in Abu Simbel in Nubia in the South, other mortuary temples in Nubia as far south as Napata, stele at Elephantine, raided Nubia later in his reign.

Although the bible says Zerah and/or the army were Kushites/Ethiopians it doesn't mean Zerah can't be Egyptian. Some say Cush can be Arabia, but there is no evidence of Zerah's large army coming from there. Cush is probably Ethiopia. For such a large army of Ethiopians to reach Judah they would surely come through Egypt, unless they crossed over the Suez or sailed up the Suez both of which are unlikely.

Lubim match:
2 Chronicles 16:8 says Zerah also came with Lubim. These Lubim are either Libyans, Lydians, Arabs (l/r interchange), or Nubians (l/n interchange)?
Seti 1 & Ramses 2 had campaigns/raids in Libya (refs Bey, Clayton), and they are both connected with the Thuhi/Thuhen/Tuheni "the light or fair people" of Libya.
Merneptah put down a Libyan revolt, and/or he won victories over the Libyans and Sea Peoples. The word Libya is first mentioned in Merneptah's reign.
Merneptah crushed a revolt and rebels in the south or Nubia.
It would not be surprising for Merneptah to have Libyans or Nubians in his force. Maybe compare Ramses III mentions "numerous foreign mercenaries" in his inscription.

Chariots & horsemen match, & Army numbers match
Shishak came with 1200 chariots and 60000 horsemen, and no number to the people that came with him, and abit later Zerah came with a "thousand thousand" or a million men and 300 chariots (or "very many chariots and horsemen" in 2 Chronicles 16), while Asa had 300,000 men. (The Zerah story is one of only a few appearances of the word "million" in the whole bible.) In the Ugaritic texts Terah came with "300 x 10000" or 3 million men.
Horses and/or chariots figure in events of the 15th and 18th and 19th dynasties in Egypt and Canaan/Israel/Palestine (Clayton, Wyatt).
The Apiru of the 19th dynasty were senen "knights".
Ramses 2 "gathered together one of the greatest forces of Egyptian troops ever seen, 20000 men in four divisions of 5000 each.... .... The Hittite king assembled an army even greater .... In two sections of about 18000 and 19000 men, plus 2500 chariots...." (Ref Clayton.) Ramses built factories which produced "some 1000 weapons... about 250 chariots in 2 weeks...." (ref Wiki).
Rohl suggested the Merneptah stele's connection with horses/chariots may indicate a date not before Solomon in the bible?
In Manetho's story of Osarsiph Amenophis & Seti-Ramses came with a "great army". The story mentions 80,000 rebels, 200,000 Hyksos, and 300,000 who were with Amenophis & Seti-Ramses. Amenophis in Manetho's king list matches Merneptah or Amenmesses.

Ugarit match?
Velikovsky showed in his book Ages in Chaos that Terah of the Ugarit texts may match Zerah of the bible. (A Swsk also occurs in Ugaritic texts and he might match Shishak.)
Two pharaohs have a close connection with fires or destructions at Ugarit: Akhenaten/Amenhotep IV (who is connected with Ugarit in the Amarna letters and Rohl) and Merneptah/"Amenophis" (whose name was found in Ugarit).
Hurru "Syria" is also mentioned in the Merneptah stele.

Year(s) match?
Zerah was only a couple/few decades after Shishak's/Ramses' raid, but Ramses is supposed to have reigned a long time (66 yrs) and Ramses' Jerusalem campaign was in his first decade (Shalama or Kadesh), so Zerah's campaign must have fallen within the 21st to 39th years of Ramses II's reign. The bible might imply that Zerah was not a king, though it might imply he was one (see King match below). So we need to see if Zerah can or can't match Merneptah as a commander or as a co/sub king a couple/few decades later in Ramses' reign after his Jerusalem raid, or as a king after Ramses' reign.

Asa: 10 yrs, Zerah "11th" or "14th" yr, 15th yr, no war 15th-35th, 35th yr, 39th yr, 41st yr.

Solomon 0/1/2/3/4 + Rehoboam 5 yrs = 5th/7th/8th/9th yr of Ramses/Shishak.

Rehoboam 12 + Abijah 3 + Asa 15/14/10/5/1? = Zerah "34"30/29/25/20/16 yrs after Shishak's campaign.

Ramses 5th/7th/8th/9th yr + "34"/30/29/25/20/16 = Zerah in "42"/39/38/37/36/35/34/33/32/30/29/28/27/25/24/23/21 yr of R2/Shishak.

Ramses reigned ca 4/6 yrs co & 66/67 yrs sole or ca 70/71/72/73 yrs total (or 1 + 12/13 jubilees which is 30 + 24/26/36/39 = 54/56/66/69, at 90/92 yo, OC), or reigned ca 9 yrs co/heir/prince & 55 yrs sole & 11 yrs co or 66/75 yrs total (NC).

Ramses 2nd yr defeated Sherden / Beirut stele / Aswan stele, 3rd yr starts building, 4th yr first Syria/Amurru campaign, 4th yr Beirut stelae? 5th yr second Syria campaign / battle of Kadesh, ca 5th yr raid against Libya, 7th yr third Syria/Jerusalem/Judah/Edom/Moab campaign, 8th yr Shalama campaign, 8th yr fourth? campaign Syria/Qadesh, 9th yr fourth/fifth? Syria/Qadesh campaign, 9th yr Beth Shean stele, 10th yr fifth? Syria campaign, 10th yr Beirut stele, 10th yr to Dapur, 16th/17th yr "exodus", ca 17th yr crisis with Hittites, 18th yr Edom/Moab, ca 19th yr revolt crushed,* 20th/21st yr treaty with Hittites,* 30th yr quake at Abu Simbel,* 40th yr Merneptah overseer of army,* 43rd yr raid into Nubia,* 52nd yr lunar observation, 55th yr Merneptah heir, 67th yr Ramses died and Merneptah succeeded.

Merneptah was overseer of the army during the last 27 yrs of Ramses II's reign, and was heir during the last 12/13 yrs of Ramses' reign, & reigned 10 yrs as pharaoh/king or 23 yrs heir and pharaoh (OC), or reigned 8/11 yrs co & 2 yrs co or 9/10/13 yrs ("not 19 yrs") total (NC).

Merneptah 4th yr Shalem (Rohl)? 5th yr Libyans attempt invasion, 5th yr Merneptah stele.

We see that there might possibly be a match of the amount of years Zerah was after Shishak's reign started ("42"/39/38/37/36/35/34/33/32/30/29/28/27/25/24/23/21 yrs) with the years of Ramses 2 (ca 19th yr revolt crushed, 20th/21st yr treaty with Hittites, 30th yr quake at Abu Simbel, 40th yr Merneptah overseer of army, 43rd yr raid into Nubia)?

Merneptah was overseer of the army during the latter two years (40th yr, 43rd yr).
Merneptah wasn't heir or co-ruler or sole ruler until some years after the 21st-42nd years, though it might perhaps be possible that Ramses did not really reign so long as 66 yrs as modern conventional Egyptologists/scholars state, and if so then Merneptah could have been heir or co-ruler or succesor pharaoh/king earlier than is thought (compare both Ramses 2's years featuring Merneptah and Merneptah's years featuring Ramses 2).

Strangely Oxford has Zerah's campaign in Asa's 14th year, while Merneptah was heir for 13 yrs and/or reigned a total of 13 yrs in NC, and Merneptah as "Amenophis" in Manetho's Osarsiph story is also linked with a period of 13 fatal years. (Merneptah was also Ramses II's 13th son.)

Drought/famine match?
There was a drought/famine in the times of Ramses 2 and/or Merneptah according to some sources. This might be related to the drought/famine of Elijah who was a (close/near) contemporary of Asa (in whose reign Zerah invaded)?

Was/not a king match:
Although the Bible doesn't specifically state that Zerah was a pharaoh/king it doesn't mean he was not one. The bible does have him heading/leading the massive force similar to a king. Josephus does call him a king. Some modern sources say Zerah wasn't a king but was a commander or other officer/official, though some other modern sources say Zerah was a king.
It looks like Zerah's invasion was during Merneptah's reign, though it might be possible that it was lead by Merneptah during Ramses' reign. Zerah was only a couple/few decades after Shishak's/Ramses' raid on Jerusalem, and Ramses had a long reign and Zerah's campaign would fall in his reign.
Merneptah was made overseer of the army in Ramses 2's 40th year, and was heir for the last 13 years of Ramses' long reign, and Rohl has Merneptah as co-reigning with Ramses 2 in the latter's later years.

Harpes match?
In the Ugaritic texts' Terah/Zerah's invasion force is armed with harpes (scimitars) of copper and daggers of bronze.
"Examples of harpes have been found in Gezer in southern Palestine." Gezer occurs in the Merneptah Stele.

Date(s)/chronology match:
Critics and skptics who adhere to the "expert" "scientific" conventional chronology will object that Zerah of ca 900s/800s bc can match Merneptah of "1200s" bc. We can not adequitely address the dates issue in this short piece. So we can only list a few evidences for the conventional dates of the dynasties being too high/old/long and/or for the true dates of the dynasties being lower/shorter/later as in Rohl's chronology (from the 13th dynasty down).
Conventional sources admit that they find no trace of Joseph in the 15th/16th dynasty, no trace of Moses or the exodus in the 19th dynasty, that their exodus is too close to the Merneptah stele, no trace of Joshua's Jericho in the iron age strata, that they have less than 480 yrs between "the exodus in the 19th dynasty" and "Shishak/Sheshonk", and that Sheshonk's campaign list doesn't match Shishak's.
The conventional overall Egyptian chronology is manifestly too long when compared with other sources like the Bible and Herodotus.
The conventional match of the era of Menophres with Ramses I Menpehtyre is unreliable because Menophres may not match Menpehtyre and might match other candidates like Menes or Amenophis/Phamenoph, and the era date has at least two different conflicting dates.
Rohl said that the only time that the Ugarit solar eclipse during the Amarna period could have occured is in 1012 bc.
Rohl said the lunar observation of Ramses 2's reign (Papyrus Leiden) could equally apply to a date 300 yrs later than the conventional chronology's "1200s" date.
(Though actually astronomical dating is unreliable because ancient sources testify to changes in the Earth's and/or heavenly bodies paths, eg Joshua's long day, Hezekiah's sun goes back 10 steps.)
Some conventional sources now admit that Siriadic/Sothaic dating is unreliable. Rohl questioned the Sothaic date of Amenhotep 1 in the Ebers Papyrus suggesting it relates to calendar reform.
Rohl and others have shown evidences for Shishak matching Ramses 2.
Rohl and others including myself have shown evidences for the Amarna letters period and Heretic kings period matching the United Monarchy period.
Joseph has strong matches with the 3rd-4th dynasties period.
Herodotus said Menes was (1)1340 yrs (or 1134(0) yrs?) before Seti, and Josephus said Menes was 1300 or "1399" yrs before Solomon/Shishak, which makes Menes not before ca 2300s bc and makes Seti & Solomon/Shishak roughly contemporaries. (Compare that Josephus said they were called Pharaohs down until time of Sol/Shishak/Seti, and Newton said they were gods down until time of Menes/Merneptah.)
Herodotus said Moeris (12th dyn) was only 900 yrs before Amasis 2 or Amyrtaeus or Herodotus.
There are possible mentions of Hebrews/Israelites in Canaan before the Israel Stele including the ***** of the Soleb inscription, the Sagaz Mesh "people of the rebel Mesh" or Habiru of the Amarna letters.
The three Intermediate Periods are more uncertain periods of chronology.
Rohl gives evidences for the 21st & 22nd dynasties being contemporary (Osorkhon II before Psusennes I).
The Apis Bulls sequence is unreliable because they only cover the 18th to 33rd dynasties, and there is a gap between the 20th/21st & 22nd dynasties, and I have seen two different lengths/ages for the Apis bulls.
Regnal years are unreliable because they don't always know of co-regencies, and there may be overlapping or contemporary dynasties.
Shiphrah of Exodus 1 of ca ca 1491 bc may match Spra of the 12th dynasty of "1833-1743/1745" bc.
Jabin of Hazor of Judges 4 of ca 1300s bc may match Ibni/Yabni of Hazor of "18th" cent / "1796-1780" / "1760s" or "18th-17th" cents bc.
Rohl submitted 3 non-royal genealogies which with a generation of 20-23 yrs support Ramses II being 10th century bc.
Most of the Egyptian king lists only cover from the 1st to the 19th dynasties, and the later dynasties are only really covered by Manetho who is not necessarily very reliable. Egyptology seems to have the most regard for the Turin king list but this is the most exagerated and fragmentary list of the lot.
Rohl said that the horses/chariots in the Merneptah stele indicate a date of not before Solomon?
Zoan/"Tanis" of Isaiah might match the Tanite 21st or 22nd or 23rd dynasties.
The names of the 22nd dynasty kings resemble Assyrian & Elamite names (Osorkhon & Sargon, Takeloth & Tiglath/Tukulti, Nimlot & Nimrod, Shoshenk & Susinak).
There are synchronisms between the 22nd dynasty and Phoenician kings which might indicate a time around about that of Jezebel etc (rather than of Hiram).
The name Yehoram in Sheshonk's campaign list might also imply that Shoshenk was after the king Jehoram/Joram.
Bey has anti-kings of the 19th & 20th dynasties.
Zerah invaded Judah in the reign of Asa. Omri father of Ahab became king in Asa's 31st year. Ahab married Jezebel daughter of Ethbaal of Sidon. There is a Atbaal-ramagu of Tyre in Merneptah's 3rd year.

No other candidates:
We could find no other equal or better quality candidates (for Shishak and) for Zerah.
Past proposed candidates for Shishak/Susakim have been:
Sesostris (Newton, Velikovsky);
Tuthmosis 1 (Velikovsky);
Tuthmosis 3 (Velikovsky, Courville, Drnhawkins/Prometheo, Hoeh, Down, Warthen);
Ay/Armais (Booysen);
Tutankh-amen (me);
Zeserkheperu Horemhab (Palmer, Rohl?)
Ramses 2 (Rohl, me);
Ramses 3 (James);
Ramses 4;
Ramses 9 (Furlong);
21st dyn (Jerome)?
Sesonchosis/Sheshonk 1 (conventional, Rice);
Shoshenq 2a (Englebrite/Clarity, Manning).
Past proposed candidates for Zerah have included:
Amenhotep II (Velikovsky, Hoeh, Down);
Terah (Velikovsky);
Usersatet/Usertatet (Mithrandir);
"Usersha(re-setepenre) Ramses II" / Ramses II Sestura (Palmer, me);
King's son of Kush / Viceroy of Kush or king of Napata (Rohl);
Merneptah (me);
Set-nakht User-khau-Re Setpe-nere (me, Andrew P)
Ramses IV User-ra-sotep-en-amen (James & van der Veen);
Userhau (James);
21st dyn (Jerome)?
Osorkhon (old conventional).

Asa or Azariah or Arza match??
Zerah came against Judah in the reign of Asa who was a contemporary of the prophet Azariah, and of Arza (1 Kings 16:9).
Merneptah matches Amenophis in Manetho's king list, and he matches Amenophis in Manetho's story of Osarsiph. Osarsiph in the story of Manetho matches Arisu/Irsu in the inscription of Ramses 3, and the latter is possibly similar to Asa or Azariah son of Oded or Arza.
The prophet Azariah son of Oded is maybe similar to the priest Osarsiph/Arisu and/or the prophet Amenophis son of Hapu in the story of Manetho.

Friday, August 24, 2018

King David and the Amarna Period

This post is about the times of King David in the bible matching in time with the Amarna letters period.

The Amarna letters period have been variously proposed to be connected in biblical history with either: between Joseph and Moses (conventional chronology), or Joshua's invasion, or time of Saul/David/Solomon (Rohl, us), or time of Mesha/Elijah (Velikovsky).

Recently in allempires history forum the elite enemy tried to falsely debunk our correspondence of the time around Saul/David/Solomon with the Amarna letters period and/or the Heretic kings of the end of 18th dynasty of ancient Egypt. They falsely kept making out that we are just all wrong dumb dogs, and that the conventional "1300s" bc date for the Amarna period is supposedly expert authoritative scholarly opinion, and that the Amarna period being "1300s" bc can not match David of ca 1000s bc in biblical chronology. We gave evidences that the ascribed dates of the Egyptian dynasties in their chronology are not proven fact, and that their few vertical dating evidences supports have problems/pitfalls (eg adding up hundreds of regnal years of multiple dynasties means that every one has to be right without any co-regencies etc), and that their dates don't match horizontally with sources like the bible (eg they admit they "can find little/no trace of Joseph/Moses in Egypt" in the time that they assert they were there in, and "nothing much in this strata of Jericho" in the time they assert matches Joshua's invasion, and "Sheshonk's campaign doesn't match Shishak's"), and that we have found stark matches in other periods (eg Joseph matches 3rd-4th dynasty far better than their 15th/16th dynasty). Unfortunately they just cunningly kept making out themselves and their chronological supports to be superior gods and us inferior dogs. One of the comments they had made was that the persons etc in Amarna period supposedly don't match the persons etc of Saul's/David's/Solomon's time. We wish to post some evidences here showing that there are some good posisble matches of some Amarna period names/persons with the time of David. One or more of the candidate matches below surely is pretty intriguing enough possible matches if not proof that Amarna period and time of David do have close similarities and could be abouth the same time.

(The following is only in the form of lists of candidates. First is the name/person from Amarna/Bible then after the ~ are the candidate maybe similar names/persons in Bible/Amarna with question marks.)

1. Amarna letters/period &/or Heretic kings of 18th dynasty names similar to names around King David's time:

Akizzi governor/king of Katna/Qatna/"Hamath" ~ Achish son of Maoch/Maacah king of Gath (Gittite) & Ziglag (Philistines)!

Huriya/Naphuriya/Nibhurrereya/Namhuria sar/king of Miisri/Mizri/Egypt (either Akhenaten or Tutankhamen/Nebkheperure/Horus) ~ Uriah the Hittite? Pharaoh?

sons of Libayu/Labaya "lion" of Sakmu/Shechem ~ Lion of Judah? David (slew lion)? Solomon (lion feet throne)? Canaanite prince of Megiddo (lion feet throne)? Othniel "lion"? Samson (solar, slew a lion)? Lemuel? Eliab? Saul? two sons of Samuel/Eli?

Habiru/Apiru / lu Habbatum /amelut Sa-gaz Mesh "brigands, pillagers, cut-throats, people of the rebel Mesh" ~ Heber/Eber/Hebrews/Moses? Abel (pastoralist/bedouin)? Gaza/Gath? Cabiri (Phoenicians)? Hebron?

"i and Abdu-Heba (king of Jerusalem) alone are left to fight the leader of the Habiru.... But behold they have been fighting against me...." "The Habiru are taking the cities of the king." "After they have taken Rubuda, they seek now to take Urusalim." ~ This is possible to match around about or shortly before the time of David taking Jerusalem/Jebus/Zion? or else the time of Caleb versus Adonibezek in Judges 1?

Amurru son of Aziru/Aziri/Hiziri son(s) of Abdi-Ashirta ("the dog"), prince of Amurru (to Damascus, conquered Sumuri, sought Byblos) ~ servants of Hadadezer/Hadarezer son of Rehob king of Zobah (Damascus)?

Abimilku of Surru/Tyre / Abdimilki of Sashimi ~ Ahimelech the Hittite (priest of David)? Abimelech of Shechem (Judges)? Abibalus (Tyre)? Abimelech (Psalm 34)? Hiram Abiff (Tyre)?

Addadanu/Addudani/Adna/Addu of Dan mayor of Gazru/Gezer (of Dumuia) ~ Adonijah? David (Gath)? Hadad (Edomite)?

Aiab/Ayyab (Amarna 256, 364) ~ Joab (c-in-c of army of David)?

Dudu (Amarna 158) ~ David? Dodo (2 Sam 23)? Hadad (Edomite)? Doeg?

Addaia (in Hazati, Amarna 285, 287, 289) ~ David (at Gath/Gaza)? Jedidiah? Hadad/Adados (Edom/Syria)?

Tubu/Tob (Amarna 5) ~ Toi king of Hamath? Zobah?

Shalmaiati/Mayaati (of Tyre, Amarna 155) ~ Solomon? Shulamite? Jerusalem? Absalom? Hiram? Maoch/Maacah?

Sapalulme/Supilili/Suppiluliuma of Hatti ~ Samson? Saul? Solomon? Samuel?

Sehlal (troops of) ~ Shiloh? Saul?

Shunama (Amarna 250) ~ Shunem/Shulamite?

Abdi-heba/Arthahepa/Aradhepa/Puti-hiba/Ebed-Tov prince/king of Uru-salaam/Salaam/Jerusalem ~ Jebus (Salem)? Bath-sheba? Ziba (servant of son of Saul)? rebel Sheba (2 Sam 20)? Queen of Sheba? Adonibezek? "rebel Sheba"? Abinadab? Hadadezer/Hadarezer? Obed-edom (ark)? Toi king of Hamath? Zobah?

"dog" (Amarna 91) ~ Goliath said "am i a dog..." to David?

Rubuda/Rubute (Amarna 289) ~ Rabbah (Ammon)?

Akhenaten/Ikhnaton/Khunaton / Ankhenmaat (Naphuriya / Hartitifin) ~ Nathan (prophet)? Agur son of Jakkeh (Proverbs 30)? Genubath (Edomite prince brought up in pharaoh's house)? Hadad?

Ay "father (of god)" (married widow of Tut) ~ David "father" (married widow of Uriah)? Hadad (Edomite)? Jakeh? Agur? Ithiel ("God with me")?

Hor-em-hab (adon, Shasu) ~ Jeroboam? Rehoboam? Solomon? Hiram? Genubath? Lemuel? Hadad/Hadar?

Tutankhamen/Tutankhaten / Nebkheperure (Naphuriya/Huriya? Horus? "child/boy king", battle armour) ~ Ucal (Proverbs 30)? Uriah? child of David & Bathsheba? Shishak/Susakim?

Smenkhkare (favoured sucessor of Akhenaton, gender has been disputed) ~ Solomon (favoured by Nathan)? Queen of Sheba (gender may be uncertain)?

Siduna/Zidon ~ Zion?

Amarna Letters ~ A letter was written in the story of David and Uriah.

Josephus said Shishak (900s bc) was 1300 yrs after Menes; Herodotus said Seti (19th dyn) was (1)1340 yrs after Menes; these two sources together give a date of not more than 2300s bc for Menes (1st dyn), and make Seti and Shishak around about the same time.

2. Biblical names around David's time similar to Amarna period & 18th dynasty Heretic kings names:

Samson ~ Shamsiadad? Semqen? golden flys? Sheshonk? Sheshi (Hyksos)? Samsuiluna? Samsuditana? Labayu? Suppiluliuma? Senenmut? Sapasites (Ugaritic)? Shamash-Edom (Amenhotep 2)?

King Saul ~ Salatis (Hyksos)? Shuttarna (Amarna)? Suwardata (Amarna)? Ashuruballit (Amarna)? Suppiluliuma (Amarna)? Silu/Sile (Amarna)? Tusultu (Amarna)? Surata? troops of Sehlal (Amarna)?

Nahash the Ammonite (king) of Rabbah ~ Nuhasse (Amarna)? Baalat-nese? Lachish?

Goliath ~ Kastiliash (Kassite)? Alwt & Wlt?

(King) David (or Hadad) "beloved, father" (at Gath) ~ Addaia (in Hazati/Azzati/Gaza, Amarna 285, 287, 289)? Ay "(holy) father / father (of god)"? Dudu (Amarna)? Dijate (Amarna)? Vidia/Widia/Yidya (Askelon, Amarna)? Tushratta (Amarna)? "Tette / Da-te-wa/Daitewas / Dait-as/Taitas / Eudaita/E(h)u-daitas king of land of Palastina/Walastina"? Dawidum (Mari)? Damiqilishu/Dawigninishu (Isin/Sealands)? "a son of Did" (Merneptah)? Tagi (Amarna)? Mittiwaza? Djehuty (general of Tuthmosis)? Tut? Dadusha of Eshnunna?

Achish king of Gath ~ Akizzi of Katna? Lakisa/Lachish?

Ziklag ~ Zikar (Amarna)? Sigata (Amarna 76)?

Araunah the Jebusite ~ Aruna/Aluna in mid 18th dyn king's records? Aruna/Varuna (Mitanni/Hurrian/Aryan)?

ark of the covenant similar to King Tut's chest/ark? 'Ark of the Aamu'?

Psalm 104 is similar to the 'Hymn to Aten'

Uriah the Hittite ~ Biridiya (Megiddo, Amarna)? Huriya/Naphuriya (Akhenaten or Tut, Amarna)? Burna-buriash (Amarna)? Biryawaza (Damascus, Amarna)? Vidia (Amarna)? Hittite prince Zannanza (murdered near border)? Indaruta? Tutankhamen (battle armour)?

Bath-sheba ("daughter seven/oath", wife/widow of Uriah, married David) ~ Ankhesenpaaten (six sisters/daughters, widow of Tut, married Ay)? Hatshepsut? Abdi-heba (Amarna)? Taduhepa? Hepa (Ugarit, Amarna)? Baalat-nese "mistress of lions / lion woman" (Amarna)? Qatihutisupa?

Nathan the prophet ~ Ikhnaton/Akhenaten/Khu-n-aton? Aten/Aton? Hinnatuna (Amarna)?

3 years famine in days of David (ref 2 Sam 21:1) ~ 3 years drought/famine/plague in Amarna period (ref Amarna letter 86, Velikovsky, BBC, etc)?

Hiram/Huram (Abiff) king of Tyre ~ Ahiram (Ramses 2)? Horemhab? Ramses? Biryawaza (of Damascus)? Hamuniri/Ammunira king of Beirut? Shalmaiati (of Tyre, Amarna 155)? Namhuria?

Solomon (Jedidiah, favoured by Nathan) ~ Smenkhkare (favoured heir/successor of Akhenaten)? Horemhab? Suppiluliuma king of Hatti (Amarna)? Shalmaneser? Shalmaiati (Amarna 155)?

'Queen (of) Sheba' (Makeda/Tamrin/Bilkis/Nicaule, "queen of the south" "from the ends of the earth", gender may be uncertain) ~ Smenkhkare (gender disputed)? Ankh-esenpa-aten? Kiya? Nefertiti? Abdi-heba (Amarna)? Hatshepsut? Thebes? Hepa (Ugarit, Amarna)? Baalat-nese "mistress of lions / lion woman" (Amarna)?

temple of Solomon claimed to be similar to Deir el Bahri (ref Velikovsky)?

'Proverbs' said to have similarities with Amenmope(t)'s works?

Jakeh (Proverbs 30) ~ Aten/Aton? Heqawaset (Amenhotep 3)? Sakere/Smenkhkare? Akherre?

Agur son of Jakeh (Proverbs 30) ~ Akhen-aten/Khu-n-aton/Ikhnaton son of Aten/Aton? Ay?

Princess/queen Tahpenes ~ Tanethap/Tenthape of Ahmose 1? Taduchepa? Tiy(e)/Tyi/Thi? Queen Neferi(t)-thi/Nefertiti? Ankh-esenpa-aten? Hatshepsut?

Genubath (Edomite prince brought up in pharaoh's house in Egypt) ~ Akhen(h)aten/Khunaton / Ankhenmaat? Giluhepa? Genubatye (Tuthmosis 3)? Hor-emhab?

Jeroboam (in Egypt) ~ Horemhab (of Shasu)?

Hadad/Hadar ~ Horemhab (adon)? Ay? Akhenaten / Ankhenmaat? Aten/Aton?

Shishak/Susakim king of Egypt ~ King Tutankhamen (battle armour, gold treasures)? Seti 1 (Taru/Kanna)? Ramses 2 "Sesostris"? Smenkhkare? Shamsiadad?

Ano ~ Bint-Anat (Ramses 2)? Ankh-esenpa-aten?

Table diagram of our Egyptian-Biblical chronological correspondences:
1st (&/or 2nd) dyn -- Abraham
2nd/3rd to 4th/5th dyns -- Joseph/Jacob
11th dyn -- Elim
(6th &/or) 12th (& 13th?) dyn -- Moses/exodus
15th/16th dyn (Hyksos) -- Judges/Amalek/Edomite
400 yrs 15th/16th to 19th dyn -- 480 yrs Moses to Solomon
15th/16th (Sharuhen/Apepi) -- Shechem/Abimelech?
17th dyn -- Sisera?
18th dyn -- Tahtimodshi?
18th (Amarna/Heretic) dyn -- David/psalms/Solomon
18th or 19th dyn -- Shishak/Susakim/Ano?
18th or 19th dyn -- Menelik?
19th or 20th (or 25th) dyn -- Zerah?
(20th &) 21st dyn -- Zoan & Noph?
22nd or 24th or 25th dyn -- Taharka
20th or 21st or 22nd or 25th dyn -- So
22nd/23rd dyn -- Phoenician/Assyrian/Elamite
25th dyn -- Assyrian
26a / 26b dyn -- Necho/Hophra/Nebuchadnezzar?
27th & 31st dyns -- Persians
32nd dyn -- Macedonian
33rd dyn -- Seleucids/Ptolemies/Maccabees/Romans