Saturday, February 2, 2019

Camelot


Recent news item brags that "experts" have found a 13th century (1200s ad) text that has the "Camelot legend" in it. Well, we already gave plenty of strong evidences from traditional & historical sources that Camelot was at either Dover or Richborough or Canterbury or London. They always do this, they blast bragging claims making themselves and "experts" out to be gods and they ignore others like us who have shown many stark evidences. What the elite says goes, they control all media etc. How many times i have seen/heard bragging claims blasted around the world (eg Richard the 3rd found), while they totally silence our own far more world shattering discoveries and stark proofs (eg Sisera's wounds match Seqenenre's wounds, eg Atlantis city stark matches with Tiahuanaco, eg Arthur's battle sites match Saxon Shore sites, eg Jospeh/Jacob starkly proven in 3rd-4th dynasty of Egypt, etc etc etc). Also, they have all the advantages and we have barely managed to do ours under massive disadvantages and hindrances (eg fluoridated water/food) and all alone with everyone against us.


Arthur's base/center/capital/castle/court/palace/seat/throne/table is variously located at either:
UrbLegionis/Caerleon/"Chester" (HRB, 24 kings document)
London (HRB, "Malory moved KA to London")
Camelot (Malory, Leland)
Tintagel castle ("Camelot was Tintagel", Cooper/Brewer's, Wiki)
Carduel/"Carlisle" (Romances)
Arthurburg/Etterby (near Carlisle/Stanwix)
Arthur's Hall / Celliwig (Triads, C&O)
Logres
(South) Cadbury castle/camp or Chard (local tradition, Leland)
Isneldone/Snowdon/Sinadon (Beroul, ..., Garner)
"Stirling" ("Beroul", ...)
RoundTable
"Winchester" (Malory, Winchester RT)
Fort/Mt/Clydno Eidyn (Gododin, PG, Taliesin)
Arthur'sSeat (Edinburgh local tradition)
Quimper (Lancelot romance)
Carhaix (LpfdrA, zoetropo)
St David's (Menevia) (Triads)
Cardigan (Troyes)
Pen Rhionydd (Triads)
Roxburgh castle (Moffat)
"Bear's Fort";
Bear's Den;
PictishPalace (Wonders, LF/Omer, Shoaf, Ardrey)
Gwensteri "key to Loegria" (Taliesin)?

Camelot/Schamilot details:
Name from con lui plot "as he pleased", or cant "circle, rim, edge" (same root as in Kent/Canterbury) or campus "camp, field" or melyn "yellow"?
Or from (a combination of) "Escavalon/Avalon (+ Caerleon)" (Loomis)?
Church or cathedral of St Stephen (1st christian martyr) there,
great white palace of white marble there (Malory, Hassell/Wilson)
Round Table there,
Was on a river, downstream from Astolat/Shallot,
"Camelot maybe near Camlan"?
Malory placed Camelot at "Winchester" (Guintonhi/Guintruis/Guintguic).
"Some connect Camelot with Portchester" (Cam/Cams/Hamble/Hamo's) (site of Badon).
Galahad stays in a convent near Camelot
"Many towered"?
"city of Camelot".
Camelot was or had a "castle".
Had a Great Hall?
Had tombs of heroes there.
Camelot had "many churches".

Variant spellings of the name: Camylot, Camelot, Kamelot, Kemelet, Camalot, Damolot, Caamalot, Kaamalot, Kaamelot, Camaelot, Kamaelot, Camaalot, Kamaalot, Gamalaot, Chamalot, Kameloth, Cameloth, Camaaloth, Kamaaloth, Kaamelott, Camehelot, Schamilot, Camchilot, Kamahaloth, Camahaloth.

Camelot/Schamilot/Melyn name & nature candidate matches in traditional sources:
Cameliard
Carmelide
Camulodunum (Caractacus, "Colchester" / "Maldon" / London?)
Campus Aelecti/Elleti (Bassalig, "Monmouth") (HB 41, OEC)
Campus Heli (metropolis of St Padarn) (Vita Patern, Sts Lives)
Gai Campi;
Campus Lapideus / campo iuxta lapidem tituli (HB)
Santiago de Compostela (Galician analogous copy)
Camlet/London;
Camaret (Brittany)
Natanleod/Naw Cant Lliwed "ruler of 900 (warrior) companies" (ASC 508)
Canterbury (Aethelbert's "metropolis", Redwald was "at Aethelbert's court") (= "Cadbury"?)
nobles of Kemenet-heboe;
Cambenet (Bedegraine)?
camas Longart/Longphort ("near Conchra on loch long", analgous);
monastery Cambuslang;
Gomeret ("Guined")?
Gamille the Maiden of the Castle?
Cambus Kenneth / Campsie(s) (Stirling, analogous copy)?
Cam Loth "twisted/crooked + marsh" (Dunadd/Dunardry, river Add)
"Circle (Cam/Cant) of Logres"?
Cannheleydd?
Canu mawl "songs of praise"?
Cantscaul (AC)?
Kaer-caradoc (HRB)?
Cavloc (Sutton Hoo)
Colton (Dover)?
Allectus ("York")
Amatheus or Amalgaid or Armagh (Life of Patrick in the HRB)
Amallet / Alled / Allaid / Alyth.
Amlawt?
?Mt Ambrosius?
Burmaltus/Durmalt-le-galois or Mardoc or Carrado (Modena Archivolt)?
Mellitus (London) (ASC)
Garth Maelog
Clas Myrrdin or Car-marthen (1000) or "Merlin's city Caerleon"?
Meigle.
Maelga/Megla/Mela (ASC 501, HRB)
Maes-beli?
Melros "bare headland/promontory/moor(land)" / "wood" (HB VR)
'vy(.)thneint Elei' "Vultures of Ely" (PaGur)
Fount Guur Helig (Wonders)
Pwll-heli set up by a man called Helig (folklore)
Helig's land / land of Helig ab Glannog / kingdom of Helig (Triads, Wonders, Jones, Evans)
Mt Eli (Cruachan Aichle) (Life of Patrick in the HB)
Beli/Heli/Eli founder of City of the Legion (HRB, 24 kings document)
Eliseg (Pillar of Eliseg)
Sons of Eliffer/Elifert of the great retinue (AC 573, Hen Ogledd).
"Elmet"?
Elvod (HB)?
sons of Liethali (HB)?
Maelgwn &/or Court of Rhos "yellow" "headland" (AC/WA 547)
castle of Dimilioc (Tintagel) (HRB)?
Samuil Pen...?
Shamrock?

The real historical "Camelot" was at either Dover/Dubris (Guinnion of the HB, Eidyn of the PG) or Richborough/Rutupi (Legionis of the HB) or Canterbury or London.

* Dover (Guinnion/Eidyn/Snowdon) evidences:

- Arthur's 12 battles 9 battle sites match the 9 Saxon Shore sites from Norfolk to Hampshire with the middle 5 all being in Kent.

- Camelot may be connected with the root word cant "crooked" which same root Kent & Canterbury are also thought to maybe be from.

- Camelot was or had a "castle". Compare castellum Guinnion and Dover castro?

- Arthur's court/capital is alternatively at either Camelot, Snowdon, "Winchester", Celliwig, Eidyn, Arthur's Seat.
Snowdon "snow hill" matches Guinnion "white fort" and white Dover/Albion and the Downs.
"Winchester" in Arthurian is Guintonhi/Guintruis/Guintguic which is Guinnion. "The earth shall swallow Guintonhi" is connected with Dover's cliffs/drop/heights/downs.
Celliwig is connected with Celli of the PaGur which matches Caledon of the HB. Caledon Wood is certainly the Weald (the Caledonian wood in Caesar's invasion in Florus etc). Irish source says Guinnion was in Caledonian wood. Dover (Guinnion, Celliwig?) is in or surrounded/bracketed by the Weald (Caledon wood, Celli).
Eidyn was Gwallawg's seat in Taliesin. Eidyn of the PG matches Guinnion of the HB and Dover/Dubris of the ND/SS. (Fort Eidyn of the Gododin may also match fort Guinnion/Eidyn/Dover.) There is an Edinburgh Hill place-name at Dover. (Etna & Messina of some Arthurian sources is analogous for Eidyn at Dover.) Although Arthur's Seat in Edinburgh is considered to be from a corruption of Ardnasaid, the name and nature of the place are also analogous to Dover..
There is a place name Colton at Dover which might be cnnected with Camelot? (Compare Camulos/Cole.)

- Camelot is supposedly associated with Tintagel castle. The alleged Tintagel in Cornwall was only lately associated with Arthuriana, but the site does have strong seeming analogies with Dover (castellum Guinnion).

- The Round Table was at either Camelot, city of the legion, Snowdon, "Windsor", "Winchester". These sites match either Richborough (city of the legion) or Dover (Guinnion).
"Windsor" and "Winchester"/Guintonhi/Guintguic matches Guinnion (Dover).
Snowdon "snow hill" matches Guinnion and Dover/Albion and the Downs.
The Round Table is variously either a stationary/moving table-like item, or a stationary round house of polished stones or "some kind of enclosure, which could be a palace but could also be something like a henge with a defined inside and outside space", or an amphitheatre, or a circle/meeting of (12) people, or a tournament event, or a moving court. Possible matches at Dover for the RT include Dover lighthouse, or Harold's Earthwork.
Windsor and Snowdon are both associated with both the RT and with Yseut. Dover/Guinnion seems to be associated with women, eg Mary (Guinnion, Dover), Winlogee/Guinevere (castle in Modena Archivolt), Yseut (RT, Snowdon/Windsor), Martia, Morgana (Castle of Morgane, Etna/Messina/Sicily), Gwenwisa/Genuissa, Gwendolen, Gamille the Maiden (of the Castle), Igraine (Tintagel), Shallot/Elaine/Helena?

- Some have thought that Camelot may be from combination of Avalon + Caerleon. "Caerleon" the city of the legion is Richborough; Avalon might match Dover/Guinnion (or Reculver/Bassas).

* Richborough (city of the legion) evidences:

- Arthur's 12 battles 9 battle sites match the 9 Saxon Shore sites from Norfolk to Hampshire with the middle 5 all being in Kent.

- Two of the best candidates for the original "(King) Arthur" are Vortimer and Ethelbert who were both in the Richborough/Kent area.

- Camelot may be connected with the root word cant "crooked" which same root Kent & Canterbury are also thought to maybe be from.

- Camelot was on a river (compare "Caerleon upon Uske"). Rutupi/Richborough is on the Stour.

- "city of Camelot", compare the city of the legion and Rutupi/Richborough.

- Arthur's court/capital is alternatively at either Camelot, the City of the Legion.
The City of the Legion (urbs, 6th of 9, 9th of 12) certainly matches Richborough/Rutupi (orbs, legion Augusta, 5th of 9, 9th hour). Some consider Camelot to be from a combination of Caerleon and Avalon.
Gwensteri "key to Loegria" (Taliesin) well matches Richborough/Rutupi.
Camelot could be connected with Camulodunum which is connected with the Trinovantes and with Caractacus. Caractacus was in the Richborough &/or Kent area for a time.

- Camelot might be connected with Natanleod /  Naw Cant Lliwed "ruler of 900 (warrior) companies" who seemingly may be connected with the legion of the City of the Legion Richborough/Rutupi. (Compare name of Natanleod with Leodegrance or Lancelot?) The name "Circle of Logres" (circle of legion/legions/legionaries?) might also be related?

- The Round Table was at Camelot or the City of the Legion. I and some other scholars agree that the Round Table might be connected with the Amphitheatre at Richborough (and/or the legion there, and/or the name Rutupi "red top").
"jousts are held in a meadow outside the city" of Camelot well matches the amphitheatre outside Richborough fort.

- 3 courts (Triads), or 3 renowned cities, or 3 vultures of Ely could match the 3 main battle sites in Kent (Reculver/Bassas, Richborough/Legionis, Dover/Guinnion) or the 3 bishoprics (Canterbury, Rochester, London)

- "Galahad stays in a convent near Camelot" may be connected with Guinevere's convent at "Caerleon" (the city of the legion, Richborough) and/or the convent at Amesbury.

- Malory: great white palace of white marble at Camelot (melyn "yellow"?)
Richborough: large (white) cruciform platform building faced with Italian marbles.

- Church of St Stephen at Camelot.
Labienus 1st soldier to die in Caesar's invasion at/near Richborough/Deal/Dover (the large cruciform platform at Richborough may be his grave/cenotaph).
Sts Julius & Aaron 1st christian martyrs at City of the Legion (= Richborough/Rutupi).

- These fields/camps sites seemingly might all be connected with the same site (the city of the legion Richborough/Rutupi) : Maisuriam, Maesbeli ("field of Beli"), Maes Garmon ("field of Germanus"), Bassalig/Maesaleg, Campus Electi, Campus Heli, Gai Campi, Campus Lapideus, field of Leeks?
These similar names might all be related to the same site (the city of the legion Richborough) : land of Helig, Maesbeli, Vultures of Ely, Campus Heli, Campus Electi, Eliseg, sons of Eliffer/Elifert, Elvod, Elmet, sons of Liethali, Guithelin, Cannheleydd.
Descriptions of Helig's land are similar to Richborough (city of the legion), eg "at the end of Helig's land" (or boundary marker?), "usually regarded as being somewhere between the eastern tip of Anglesea (Ynys Seiriol) & Conway", "between Ceredigion and Bardsey".
The city of the legion (Richborough) was founded by Beli/Heli/Eli in the HRB and in the 24 Kings document.
The sons or great retinue of Eliffer might match the Arthurian legion at Richborough.
Mt Eli = Cruachan Aichle of Patrick in the HB. Cruachan Aichle seems to match Cruc Mawr of the Wonders of Britain, which wonder pretty surely matches the massive crucifrom platform at Richborough/Rutupi (the city of the legion).
Campus Lapideus in Vortimer's battles list is agreed to possibly be the city of the legion Richborough by myself, theelf, and Evans.
Gai Campi might be from Gaius Julius Caesar who landed at/near Richborough.
Rutupi/Richborough was thought to be a wood or in the Caledonian wood, which is similar to Elmet/Loidis.

- Camelot was downstream from Astolat/Shallot. This might match Richborough (city of the legion) and Dover (Guinnion)?

- "Camelot maybe near Camlan"? Arthur died at the city of lions/Lyonesse in some sources, which site matches the city of the legion Richborough. Camlan may mean "crooked bank/glen"; there is a big bend in the river in the Woodnesborough/Sandwich area, and/or the name Kent/Canterbury is also thought to maybe be from the same cant "bent" root word, and the meaning could relate to the cliffs between Dover and Reculver.

- Campus Aelecti is near Bassalig. Bassas of the HB matches Reculver of the ND/SS, which site is like sister to Richborough. (This is evidently traditionally possible/feasible even though the name is considred to actually be from Maesaleg "field of ...".)

- Santiago de Compostela can be connected with the city of the legion (Richborough) by that Jago is associated with the city of the legion in the Welsh Annals and the HRB, and by that the name resembles Campus Electi or Campus Heli, and the city of the legion was built by Eli/Heli/Beli. Compostela is paired with Santa Maria de Bretona, which matches the city of the legion / Richborough paired with fort Guinnion / Dover. (Galician's have Celtic blood ties with Britons.)

- Camelot is thought by some to be from melyn "yellow" or melot? The name might be connected with Melros and Maelgwn's court of Rhos, and these names mean "bare headland/promotory/moor(land" which well matches the Reculver (Bassas) & Rutupi/Richborough (city of the legion) area. "Wedale" near "Melros" in Lodonesia in the HB VR may match either Dover (Guinnion) or Reculver (Bassas) near Richborough (city of the legion) in the sphere of London.

- Camelot had "many churches" "like the city of the legion". Compare the city of lions/lyonesse and its 140 churches. The city of lions at lands end in far south-west analogously matches the city of the legion (and) Richborough in the far south-east.

* Canterbury evidences:

- Arthur's 12 battles 9 battle sites match the 9 Saxon Shore sites from Norfolk to Hampshire with the middle 5 all being in Kent. Canterbury is at intersection of roads leading to 5 battle sites (Medway/Celidon, Reculver/Bassas, Richborough/Legionis, Dover/Guinnion, Lemanis/Tribruit).

- Camelot is associated with Cadbury in local traditions. Cadbury's name may recall Canterbury (and/or Mt Cayburn near Pevensey/Anderida).

- Camelot may be connected with the root word cant "crooked" which same root Kent & Canterbury are also thought to maybe be from.

- Aethelbert of Kent might be the origial "(King) Arthur". Canterbury as "Aethelbert's metropolis" could match Arthur's capital Arthurburg &/or Camelot. Redwald was "at Aethelbert's court".

- "Many-towered" Camelot might match Canterbury?
The cathedral at Camelot sounds abit like Canterbury?
Camelot had many tombs of heroes, which from vague memory is like Canterbury?
Camelot had "many churches" which might be abit like Canterbury?

* London evidences:

- Arthur's 12 battles 9 battle sites match the 9 Saxon Shore sites from Norfolk to Hampshire with the middle 5 all being in Kent. London is between Othona/Bradwell/Maldon (Dubglas/Linnuis) and Kit's Coty/Coldrum/Rochester/Chatham/Aylesford/Medway (Caledon).

- Wheeler's & Deniker's Essex gap or salient of Britons in the 'Anglo-Saxon" south-east (Colchester - London - St Alban's).

- "Malory moved Arthur to London".

- Arthur may be from Aethelbert of Kent. In Ethelbert's time Mellitus was the 1st bishop of London, and Camelot is supposed by some to maybe be from melyn (or melot).

- Camulodunum (once thought to be Maldon) could be London?

- Camlet moat in London?

- Logres/Locrin could match either London/Londres or the city of the legion / Logiore.

Table for the city of the legion Richborough & Guinnion/Dover:
Rutupi/Richborough - Dover/Dubris (ND/SS)
city of the legion - Guinnion (HB)
Camelot - Astolat/Shallot
Carlion - Avalon/Camelot (Loomis)
Logres - Avalon
Carlion - Snowdon.

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